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When did they hint? All I've seen is unfounded rumors for the last few years. If Apple did come out with a tablet you can be sure it'd be $1500+. So it'd be a

When did they hint? All I've seen is unfounded rumors for the last few years. If Apple did come out with a tablet you can be sure it'd be $1500+. So it'd be a totally different market anyway.

raganwald 17y ago
When did they hint? All I've seen is unfounded rumors for the last few years. Yes. If Apple did come out with a tablet you can be sure it'd be $1500+. Speaking of unfounded rumours... This may be an educated guess, it may be an excellent hunch, it may be a brilliant prognostication. But unless you're quoting a source or have inside information, it's still an unfounded rumour.
- bumblebird 17y ago
  Can you cite other examples of Apple competing on price? Or being anything but 'high end' pricing. Look at the Macbook Air - $1499. A tablet would be pretty much an Air but without the keyboard. I don't think it's likely therefore that the price would be too much different.
  - raganwald 17y ago
    You're explaining why your opinion or guess or hunch or prediction or whatever you want to call it is likely to be correct. i don't dispute it, nor do I suggest I hold a different opinion. However, I am suggesting that your opinion/hunch/prediction is unfounded. Meaning, it is speculative and not based on some specific factual evidence in hand. For example, if you heard about the pricing from a buddy that is working on the apple.com web site you would be passing evidence along. I'm not suggesting you shouldn't be speculating along these or any other lines. I just found it interesting that you would mention unfounded rumours in the same comment as sharing your own speculations about what Apple might or might not do.
    - bumblebird 17y ago
      The likelihood of Apple releasing a tablet, I'd say is low. But they could. Fair enough. I don't think they will, but that wasn't my point. However, if they do release a tablet, there is absolutely no way on gods earth, they would ever make a competitively priced one. For a start, it'll cost more than the iPhone, or it simply won't make any sense. So we're up to the $500 mark already. My point was, that even if Apple come out with a tablet tomorrow, it will definitely, categorically, not be in the same area as the crunchpad was planned to be - cheap.
      - raganwald 17y ago
        I agree with your point, FWIW, and in fact I'm saving up for one :-)
  - philwelch 17y ago
    You think Apple would just rip the lid, keyboard, and trackpad off an Air, throw a touchscreen on it, and call it a tablet?
    - bumblebird 17y ago
      What else is there to a tablet? Of course they could go the other way - just make a really massive ipod touch. I'd bet they don't release a tablet. It makes no sense to me.
      - philwelch 17y ago
        There's nothing else to a tablet if you're one of the scores of computer makers that has already done exactly that (tearing off the lid, keyboard, and touchpad and put in a touchscreen). For Apple, I don't know. They haven't invented it yet and I've learned that they can be more creative with years of product development time than I can be with a few minutes of writing comments. But they sure as hell won't release something that isn't significantly different in some way than what's been released before in the tablet space.
      - elblanco 17y ago
        They are probably holding off more for software that makes a tablet make sense rather than just hardware. The hardware is a known quantity, but software for a tablet form factor has IMHO never really been worked out well. Sure it might make a great piece of kit for an artist to take around, but how big of a market is that? I'm thinking that a more innovative approach would be in order for it to really work.

When did they hint? All I've seen is unfounded rumors for the last few years. If Apple did come out with a tablet you can be sure it'd be $1500+. So it'd be a totally different market anyway.

raganwald 17y ago

When did they hint? All I've seen is unfounded rumors for the last few years. Yes. If Apple did come out with a tablet you can be sure it'd be $1500+. Speaking of unfounded rumours... This may be an educated guess, it may be an excellent hunch, it may be a brilliant prognostication. But unless you're quoting a source or have inside information, it's still an unfounded rumour.

bumblebird 17y ago
Can you cite other examples of Apple competing on price? Or being anything but 'high end' pricing. Look at the Macbook Air - $1499. A tablet would be pretty much an Air but without the keyboard. I don't think it's likely therefore that the price would be too much different.
- raganwald 17y ago
  You're explaining why your opinion or guess or hunch or prediction or whatever you want to call it is likely to be correct. i don't dispute it, nor do I suggest I hold a different opinion. However, I am suggesting that your opinion/hunch/prediction is unfounded. Meaning, it is speculative and not based on some specific factual evidence in hand. For example, if you heard about the pricing from a buddy that is working on the apple.com web site you would be passing evidence along. I'm not suggesting you shouldn't be speculating along these or any other lines. I just found it interesting that you would mention unfounded rumours in the same comment as sharing your own speculations about what Apple might or might not do.
  - bumblebird 17y ago
    The likelihood of Apple releasing a tablet, I'd say is low. But they could. Fair enough. I don't think they will, but that wasn't my point. However, if they do release a tablet, there is absolutely no way on gods earth, they would ever make a competitively priced one. For a start, it'll cost more than the iPhone, or it simply won't make any sense. So we're up to the $500 mark already. My point was, that even if Apple come out with a tablet tomorrow, it will definitely, categorically, not be in the same area as the crunchpad was planned to be - cheap.
    - raganwald 17y ago
      I agree with your point, FWIW, and in fact I'm saving up for one :-)
- philwelch 17y ago
  You think Apple would just rip the lid, keyboard, and trackpad off an Air, throw a touchscreen on it, and call it a tablet?
  - bumblebird 17y ago
    What else is there to a tablet? Of course they could go the other way - just make a really massive ipod touch. I'd bet they don't release a tablet. It makes no sense to me.
    - philwelch 17y ago
      There's nothing else to a tablet if you're one of the scores of computer makers that has already done exactly that (tearing off the lid, keyboard, and touchpad and put in a touchscreen). For Apple, I don't know. They haven't invented it yet and I've learned that they can be more creative with years of product development time than I can be with a few minutes of writing comments. But they sure as hell won't release something that isn't significantly different in some way than what's been released before in the tablet space.
    - elblanco 17y ago
      They are probably holding off more for software that makes a tablet make sense rather than just hardware. The hardware is a known quantity, but software for a tablet form factor has IMHO never really been worked out well. Sure it might make a great piece of kit for an artist to take around, but how big of a market is that? I'm thinking that a more innovative approach would be in order for it to really work.