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> But the privacy of their chats and photos seems pretty important to them, so I question the validity of this stance. Maybe thanks to Snapchat for making this

> But the privacy of their chats and photos seems pretty important to them, so I question the validity of this stance. Maybe thanks to Snapchat for making this type of feature easy and accessible. A) Anyone who wants to bypass this protection and is slightly tech savvy can. B) The illusion of safety is more dangerous than a true lack of safety. You can't be betrayed if you don't trust in the first place.

dmix 11y ago
I'm more interested in the behavior and demand for privacy features shown by youth - than the technical efficacy of the implementation. As engineers we can solve the technical issues over time and improve the status quo, but changing peoples behaviour is incredibly hard. All of the most effective encryption tools in the world won't matter - in the context of privacy - if people don't care about them, or are aware of the risks that exist, or if the tools aren't designed in a way to be usable by the average human.
- fweespeech 11y ago
  Fair enough, that wasn't clear from your comment. Yes, the fact people adopt the Apps/Technologies that claim to have security/privacy functions is a good thing from a behavior/demand perspective. I just worry they'll get burned by how poor the implementations are and end up with something embarrassing on the internet that floats around forever.
- Jtsummers 11y ago
  What's the motivation to introduce actual privacy when people think that they've had it for years? Advertisers, governments, and others will happily encourage this illusion and as long as most people believe it or don't care, it's likely to hold up. Until the bubble bursts and they realize that all their snide remarks, gossip and sexts have been collected and archived, maybe things will change. But the public has demonstrated an incredible lack of outrage at similar violations of trust in the past.
- mhb 11y ago
  Doesn't that just suggest that Jott thinks its users care about privacy? Not necessarily that the users care.

dmix 11y ago

I'm more interested in the behavior and demand for privacy features shown by youth - than the technical efficacy of the implementation. As engineers we can solve the technical issues over time and improve the status quo, but changing peoples behaviour is incredibly hard. All of the most effective encryption tools in the world won't matter - in the context of privacy - if people don't care about them, or are aware of the risks that exist, or if the tools aren't designed in a way to be usable by the average human.

fweespeech 11y ago
Fair enough, that wasn't clear from your comment. Yes, the fact people adopt the Apps/Technologies that claim to have security/privacy functions is a good thing from a behavior/demand perspective. I just worry they'll get burned by how poor the implementations are and end up with something embarrassing on the internet that floats around forever.
Jtsummers 11y ago
What's the motivation to introduce actual privacy when people think that they've had it for years? Advertisers, governments, and others will happily encourage this illusion and as long as most people believe it or don't care, it's likely to hold up. Until the bubble bursts and they realize that all their snide remarks, gossip and sexts have been collected and archived, maybe things will change. But the public has demonstrated an incredible lack of outrage at similar violations of trust in the past.
mhb 11y ago
Doesn't that just suggest that Jott thinks its users care about privacy? Not necessarily that the users care.