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Is waiting until they implode from bad management a viable strategy? I remember reading on Quora, a prospective hire had offers at Zenefits and Uber, and asked

• woah 11y ago
  I guess there's an argument to be made against doing things like that publicly, but the prospective employee sounds like someone I wouldn't want to work with.
  • lambdasquirrel 11y ago
    I agree. It sounds bad, until I RTFA. If I saw what the person said as an employee at Zenefits, I would've told my boss to rescind the offer.
    • jasonmp85 11y ago
      If you expect all incoming outsiders to be excited about your company and have decided you can't convince those who aren't to become excited, you've got a cult, not a company. Dissenting views? Skepticism? Interests that might not align completely with our delicate, fragile startup? Shun! Shun! It's incredibly insecure. Maybe for the first ten hires you need that kind of alignment to get the culture vector pointing in the right direction with a significant magnitude. But after that? Having to defend your ideas to internal skeptics makes you stronger. Hiring rose-glasses yes men might let you coast for a while, but when the end comes, it will be swift (see e.g. RIM). EDIT: I can maybe see doing this quietly, though it would be pretty hard to swoop in as CEO and rescind an offer without letting your employees on the interview loop know. I really think it's the public aspect of this behavior that bothers me. Just think: what kind of chilling effect does this have on employee speech internally? It really projects a "get in line or get out" mentality.
      • lambdasquirrel 11y ago
        I don't expect incoming outsiders to be excited. But I expect them to be open and curious, as opposed to looking for a buzzword. Seriously? Google is buzzword-worthy?
      • woah 11y ago
        What are you talking about? The employee's issue was that Zenefits is not buzzy enough and he wants to work at Google.
        • x0x0 11y ago
          The fact is, there are a set of universities and employers that open doors. Did you go to Harvard or MIT? Grad school at cmu? You get an interview. You're not necessarily hired, but you get an interview. Google is one of the employers that open doors in the same way; Zenefits isn't and probably never will be. There's nothing wrong with employees acknowledging reality and mapping out a career path.
          • lambdasquirrel 11y ago
            We get that. And, don't work at a startup.
• xacaxulu 11y ago
  That shenanigan would be reason enough for me not to use Zenefits. How unprofessional.