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There's also this similar website which seems to be mainly used for software licenses https://tldrlegal.com https://tldrlegal.com

kefka 11y ago
When you pirate the software to begin with, license agreements are kind of moot. Well, that and using open source software. Most of those dictates decide what to do if you want to use their code.
- coldpie 11y ago
  As an open source user, I'm always baffled when I run a proprietary application and I start to read this big box of confusing, useless text before realizing it's a EULA.
  - reagency 11y ago
    Are you baffled when you run an open source application and the GPL pops up?
    - vezzy-fnord 11y ago
      Probably means I accidentally typed "warranty" somewhere to find I have no warranty.
    - coldpie 11y ago
      I don't think I've ever seen this happen. It's not something end users need to agree to, so why would an application show it to end users?
      - kefka 11y ago
        I've seen it on MS platforms when someone packs a GPL program using Windows installers. It's assumed that if you develop for Windows, it's going to be proprietary and a restrictive license. So the packagers have a click-continue EULA boilerplate. And then the open source packager copy-pastes the GPL in the EULA screen. It's annoying, but I have seen it rarely. Thank goodness that Apt doesnt do this.
  - kefka 11y ago
    That's where I sit most of the time. I prefer using Linux as my desktop, as well as my server OS. I'm looking into combining my machines under Mesos, but that'll take some figuring out (as opposed to Kubernetes and friends). My degree calls for, unfortunately, very vertical programs that I cannot afford (3d design - Autodesk Inventor, Cateia, Solidworks). So I resort to piracy for my learning. I still feel wrong to make profit on pirated works. However, I'm also learning FreeCAD as well how they develop it. This is what I use when I make money on 3d designs. I'd much rather it win out than things like Inventor anyday.
    - Bjartr 11y ago
      I know at least Autodesk lets you download their entire suite (inventor included) if you can provide them a .edu email address, for the purpose of learning, your exact use case. I can't speak for the others.
      - kefka 11y ago
        They do. Inventor is a 3d parametric editor. You can make a simple gear, or you can make an engine and apply constrained motion as it would work in real life. We call this an assembly. I have quite a few drawings that have over 100 parts in them. No big deal, so far? The problem is Autodesk Inventor wants to put a nag screen on everything you open, proclaiming "THIS IS EDUCATIONAL". That's fine for me so far... Until you realize that it opens up the "THIS IS EDUCATIONAL" for every part, and including the assembly file itself. 101 dialogs? No. It crashes after 70 or so. So, I went and downloaded a pirate copy. And l and behold, the pirate copy works better than the 'legit' one. (Solidworks is $175 for student, and Catia has no student option. Creo or ProE just stinks.)

kefka 11y ago

When you pirate the software to begin with, license agreements are kind of moot. Well, that and using open source software. Most of those dictates decide what to do if you want to use their code.

coldpie 11y ago
As an open source user, I'm always baffled when I run a proprietary application and I start to read this big box of confusing, useless text before realizing it's a EULA.
- reagency 11y ago
  Are you baffled when you run an open source application and the GPL pops up?
  - vezzy-fnord 11y ago
    Probably means I accidentally typed "warranty" somewhere to find I have no warranty.
  - coldpie 11y ago
    I don't think I've ever seen this happen. It's not something end users need to agree to, so why would an application show it to end users?
    - kefka 11y ago
      I've seen it on MS platforms when someone packs a GPL program using Windows installers. It's assumed that if you develop for Windows, it's going to be proprietary and a restrictive license. So the packagers have a click-continue EULA boilerplate. And then the open source packager copy-pastes the GPL in the EULA screen. It's annoying, but I have seen it rarely. Thank goodness that Apt doesnt do this.
- kefka 11y ago
  That's where I sit most of the time. I prefer using Linux as my desktop, as well as my server OS. I'm looking into combining my machines under Mesos, but that'll take some figuring out (as opposed to Kubernetes and friends). My degree calls for, unfortunately, very vertical programs that I cannot afford (3d design - Autodesk Inventor, Cateia, Solidworks). So I resort to piracy for my learning. I still feel wrong to make profit on pirated works. However, I'm also learning FreeCAD as well how they develop it. This is what I use when I make money on 3d designs. I'd much rather it win out than things like Inventor anyday.
  - Bjartr 11y ago
    I know at least Autodesk lets you download their entire suite (inventor included) if you can provide them a .edu email address, for the purpose of learning, your exact use case. I can't speak for the others.
    - kefka 11y ago
      They do. Inventor is a 3d parametric editor. You can make a simple gear, or you can make an engine and apply constrained motion as it would work in real life. We call this an assembly. I have quite a few drawings that have over 100 parts in them. No big deal, so far? The problem is Autodesk Inventor wants to put a nag screen on everything you open, proclaiming "THIS IS EDUCATIONAL". That's fine for me so far... Until you realize that it opens up the "THIS IS EDUCATIONAL" for every part, and including the assembly file itself. 101 dialogs? No. It crashes after 70 or so. So, I went and downloaded a pirate copy. And l and behold, the pirate copy works better than the 'legit' one. (Solidworks is $175 for student, and Catia has no student option. Creo or ProE just stinks.)