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My Archlinux based LiveUSB setup comes around to 1GB and has Libreoffice, Wine, Firefox/Chromium. That said, there are some questionable dependencies in Archlin

by vamur 11y ago

My Archlinux based LiveUSB setup comes around to 1GB and has Libreoffice, Wine, Firefox/Chromium. That said, there are some questionable dependencies in Archlinux lately. For example, mpv now requires smbclient, which then pulls python2.7.

RexRollman 11y ago
There's always been little things like that. For example, installing Feh pulls in libid3tag (which for whatever reason is a dependency of imlib2).
- leni536 11y ago
  Maybe for opening album art? Feh complains if I want to open an mp3 with embedded album art though: feh WARNING: 01.mp3 - No Imlib2 loader for that file format And imlib2 does depend on libid3tag.
  - RexRollman 11y ago
    I know but it's a weird dependency to me. One would think that an ID3 editor would need that, not the image processing utililty itself.
plg 11y ago
Is freeBSD better on this front?
- andrers 11y ago
  Not really. I thought of installing gcc 5.1 through its binary package and it tried to install gcc-ecj 4.5 along with it. I ended up installing it through the ports system, disabling Java support. Its ports are where FreeBSD really shines. They're something in between Arch's ABS and Gentoo's portage. I just wish there was someway to say "install binutils via pkg, and only compile gcc itself".
  - floatboth 11y ago
    pkg install binutils && make -C/usr/ports/lang/gcc install clean :-) You can also `make package` to, well, make your own binary package (it will be in /usr/ports/lang/gcc/work/pkg) to distribute to other machines. Or use poudriere to setup a proper package build server.
creshal 11y ago
The dependencies are mainly insane upstream defaults, which Arch doesn't try to hide. For many packages there are modified PKGBUILDs available in the AUR for these situations (mplayer-nosmb, pidgin-mini, …). Sadly not for mpv (yet, I've been meaning for a while to make one, but didn't yet get around to it).

by vamur 11y ago

RexRollman 11y ago

There's always been little things like that. For example, installing Feh pulls in libid3tag (which for whatever reason is a dependency of imlib2).

leni536 11y ago
Maybe for opening album art? Feh complains if I want to open an mp3 with embedded album art though: feh WARNING: 01.mp3 - No Imlib2 loader for that file format And imlib2 does depend on libid3tag.
- RexRollman 11y ago
  I know but it's a weird dependency to me. One would think that an ID3 editor would need that, not the image processing utililty itself.

plg 11y ago

Is freeBSD better on this front?

andrers 11y ago
Not really. I thought of installing gcc 5.1 through its binary package and it tried to install gcc-ecj 4.5 along with it. I ended up installing it through the ports system, disabling Java support. Its ports are where FreeBSD really shines. They're something in between Arch's ABS and Gentoo's portage. I just wish there was someway to say "install binutils via pkg, and only compile gcc itself".
- floatboth 11y ago
  pkg install binutils && make -C/usr/ports/lang/gcc install clean :-) You can also `make package` to, well, make your own binary package (it will be in /usr/ports/lang/gcc/work/pkg) to distribute to other machines. Or use poudriere to setup a proper package build server.

creshal 11y ago

The dependencies are mainly insane upstream defaults, which Arch doesn't try to hide. For many packages there are modified PKGBUILDs available in the AUR for these situations (mplayer-nosmb, pidgin-mini, …). Sadly not for mpv (yet, I've been meaning for a while to make one, but didn't yet get around to it).