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Look at the people making the accusations. They're all straight, white men. Socialists are typically upper middle class straight white men. Nice try painting me

Look at the people making the accusations. They're all straight, white men. Socialists are typically upper middle class straight white men. Nice try painting me as racist, sexist or homophobic, though. Look at the twitter hashtag #notyourshield. The PC hatemob isn't liked by women, people of color or LGBT. They tend to dislike straight, white men telling them what it's like to be black, female or gay.

braythwayt 11y ago
I have a real problem with your telling me what people of colour like and don’t like. Last time I checked, you don’t speak for me either. And the entire premise of your world-view is broken. When you frame these white liberals as “speaking for” people of colour or speaking for women, or speaking for LGBT people, you are presuming that racism, sexism, and homophobia are strictly issues for people of colour, women, and LGBT people. And therefore, if someone who isn’t one of these people speaks out against it, they must be some kind of paternal mansplaining social justice warrior. In reality, some such people exist, but so do people who are egalitarian, and feel that racism, sexism, and homophobia are simply wrong. They aren’t speaking for anyone but themselves, and that is why you get some people pointing that out. But just because they don’t speak for me, for example, doesn’t invalidate that they speak truth to power. As long as they don’t claim to speak for me, thats fine. Unlike you, who tried to suggest what people of colour think without qualifying your statement by admitting that you want to present some cherry-picked examples that suit your cause. Painting people who speak out as a “PC Hatemob” really speaks to the fact that you relish taking an extremist position. So given that you are way out in batshit-crazy tinfoil-hat land, what’s in it for me to talk to you? I doubt that anyone reading our respective words is going to be swayed from whatever position they already held. People who agree with you will mindlessly upvote you for saying what Fox News has been saying for years. Nothing you have said really provokes any kind of “hmmm...” from me. It’s like talking to a well-written Markov Chain that was trained on a corpus of GamerGate tweets.

braythwayt 11y ago

I have a real problem with your telling me what people of colour like and don’t like. Last time I checked, you don’t speak for me either. And the entire premise of your world-view is broken. When you frame these white liberals as “speaking for” people of colour or speaking for women, or speaking for LGBT people, you are presuming that racism, sexism, and homophobia are strictly issues for people of colour, women, and LGBT people. And therefore, if someone who isn’t one of these people speaks out against it, they must be some kind of paternal mansplaining social justice warrior. In reality, some such people exist, but so do people who are egalitarian, and feel that racism, sexism, and homophobia are simply wrong. They aren’t speaking for anyone but themselves, and that is why you get some people pointing that out. But just because they don’t speak for me, for example, doesn’t invalidate that they speak truth to power. As long as they don’t claim to speak for me, thats fine. Unlike you, who tried to suggest what people of colour think without qualifying your statement by admitting that you want to present some cherry-picked examples that suit your cause. Painting people who speak out as a “PC Hatemob” really speaks to the fact that you relish taking an extremist position. So given that you are way out in batshit-crazy tinfoil-hat land, what’s in it for me to talk to you? I doubt that anyone reading our respective words is going to be swayed from whatever position they already held. People who agree with you will mindlessly upvote you for saying what Fox News has been saying for years. Nothing you have said really provokes any kind of “hmmm...” from me. It’s like talking to a well-written Markov Chain that was trained on a corpus of GamerGate tweets.