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I love that this is the state of public discourse even on hacker news. Just accuse something of being like anti-vax and the down votes follow. No critical thoug
by juliangregorian 11y ago
I love that this is the state of public discourse even on hacker news. Just accuse something of being like anti-vax and the down votes follow. No critical thought required.
- TazeTSchnitzel 11y agoActually, people aren't listening to your anti-fluoride woo because they're well aware of the situation.
- juliangregorian 11y agoOh are they? Your edification would be most appreciated in that case.
- TazeTSchnitzel 11y agoPublic water fluoridation has well-understood health benefits (a reduction in cavities that cannot be achieved through brushing alone). It also has well-understood drawbacks (tooth mottling in high concentrations, toxicity in high concentrations). Someone participating in this discussion would either know this from general knowledge, or could look it up. People aren't that ignorant.
- juliangregorian 11y agoAssume that I am. Sources, please.
- DanBC 11y agoAsking for sources in the same thread where you've been makig strong but unsupported claims is a bit rich.
- juliangregorian 11y agoI haven't really made any claims, but if you need me to source anything besides the one I already gave you, you're welcome to point it out.
- TazeTSchnitzel 11y agoIt's trivial to find sources for the effectiveness of fluoride in preventing tooth decay (Google -> Wikipedia -> a citation leads you here: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5014a1.htm http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5014a1.htm). There are also studies on water fluoridation's impacts, though it's harder to test that, by nature.
- juliangregorian 11y agoOh hey, published by the "Fluoride Recommendation Work Group"! Wonder what their agenda is? You have only to look up the rates of tooth decay among non-fluoridated countries to find that there is no difference whatsoever.
- TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago> Oh hey, published by the "Fluoride Recommendation Work Group"! Wonder what their agenda is? It doesn't matter what theirs is, the link I gave you isn't useful as a source, but as a list of sources.
- juliangregorian 11y agoAlso, very classy of you to paint me as "anti-fluoride" like I would have to have some sort of agenda to question why things are being added to drinking water.
- TazeTSchnitzel 11y agoYour comments seem to do more than "question". You appear to be actively against it. Therefore, "anti-fluoride" seems fitting.
- juliangregorian 11y agoAh, I see. I shall call you "Big Fluoride" then, if that's the game we're playing.
- dang 11y agoPlease abstain, all of you, from acerbic swipes at one another. Both sides are to blame here. If you must dispute water fluoridation on Hacker News, do so by making careful, factual, respectful comments. The site guidelines specifically ask you not to call names. That includes both calling each other names as well as calling each others' arguments names (e.g. "woo").
- thomas943 11y agoJust so I understand where you are coming from, you view peer-reviewed studies as "woo"?