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I am not suggesting that racists (however defined) be invited to advocate racism to people who find that repugnant. I'm suggesting that that racism not disquali

I am not suggesting that racists (however defined) be invited to advocate racism to people who find that repugnant. I'm suggesting that that racism not disqualify them in other matters. You are quite correct that people can boycott or pressure for no-platform if they want to. Who on earth would benefit from forced contact? What I'm suggesting is that people decide not to do that. Further, that when that does happen, those who disagree speak up about it.

ncallaway 11y ago
> "What I'm suggesting is that people decide not to [boycott or pressure for no platform]" I don't like how this argument generalizes. For example, I am a strong opponent of the labor situation in Qatar as it relates to the World Cup. I want FIFA to either relocate venues or force Qatar to immediately improve their labor practices. Yet, I have no leverage over FIFA, so instead I decide to boycott FIFA's sponsors (Coke, Nike, and Adidas). Now I'm actively punishing those companies because of their speech. And I'm doing it purely because it's my only way to attempt to change the behavior of an actor two-steps removed from them. So, now I'd like one of two things: - Help me find the lines for legitimate boycotts, or - Help me determine why my boycott of Coke, Nike, and Adidas is a poor decision
- DanBC 11y ago
  Did you tell coke, nike, and adidas that you're boycotting them?
  - ncallaway 11y ago
    Truth be told, I didn't really "start" boycotting Nike products as I didn't happen to be purchasing much from them already. I included them rhetorically as the three-beat felt much more natural in that context. I did tell Coke and Adidas.
    - learnstats2 11y ago
      Boycotting Coca-Cola is extremely challenging: they own a lot of competing "hydration" brands and perhaps even the manufacturing processes used by their direct competitors. I know several people who think they are boycotting Coca-Cola but are extremely ineffective in managing to do so. Although Coke might be disappointed by the damage to their core brand, they might be less than disappointed when you choose their more profitable products as an alternative. Good luck!
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ncallaway 11y ago

> "What I'm suggesting is that people decide not to [boycott or pressure for no platform]" I don't like how this argument generalizes. For example, I am a strong opponent of the labor situation in Qatar as it relates to the World Cup. I want FIFA to either relocate venues or force Qatar to immediately improve their labor practices. Yet, I have no leverage over FIFA, so instead I decide to boycott FIFA's sponsors (Coke, Nike, and Adidas). Now I'm actively punishing those companies because of their speech. And I'm doing it purely because it's my only way to attempt to change the behavior of an actor two-steps removed from them. So, now I'd like one of two things: - Help me find the lines for legitimate boycotts, or - Help me determine why my boycott of Coke, Nike, and Adidas is a poor decision

DanBC 11y ago
Did you tell coke, nike, and adidas that you're boycotting them?
- ncallaway 11y ago
  Truth be told, I didn't really "start" boycotting Nike products as I didn't happen to be purchasing much from them already. I included them rhetorically as the three-beat felt much more natural in that context. I did tell Coke and Adidas.
  - learnstats2 11y ago
    Boycotting Coca-Cola is extremely challenging: they own a lot of competing "hydration" brands and perhaps even the manufacturing processes used by their direct competitors. I know several people who think they are boycotting Coca-Cola but are extremely ineffective in managing to do so. Although Coke might be disappointed by the damage to their core brand, they might be less than disappointed when you choose their more profitable products as an alternative. Good luck!

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