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>Before the trial started in February, Pao’s husband, Alphonse “Buddy” Fletcher Jr., was ordered by a New York state judge to pay $2.7 million to a law firm tha

>Before the trial started in February, Pao’s husband, Alphonse “Buddy” Fletcher Jr., was ordered by a New York state judge to pay $2.7 million to a law firm that represented him in his racial discrimination complaint against the famed Dakota apartments in Manhattan’s Upper West Side. [1] What an astonishingly coincidental sum [1] http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-05/pao-said-to-seek-2-7-million-to-walk-away-from-gender-lawsuit http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-05/pao-said-t... Warning, autoplay video

colinbartlett 11y ago
I keep seeing this argument made and I don't buy it. Certainly the sums of both cases are not exactly $2.7M. Those are just rounded numbers. And certainly there is some very specific list of expenses somewhere justifying that request. Plus, if her husband owes that debt isn't it reasonable to surmise he owes others? Do you really think she would take the specific amount her husband owes in an unrelated case and the demand that exact amount from an unaffiliated party in an unrelated case? This is nonsense. Coincidental indeed and not even a very strong coincidence. It's rounding.
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- spcoll 11y ago
  People on here love to hate on Ellen because she's a woman who made it as CEO of a popular tech company. The white male nerds on HN will use any conspiracy theory or baseless attack on her character to try to discredit her. When you're full of hate, you're not going to let logic or facts stop you from hating and spewing lies...
  - nateabele 11y ago
    Wow, what a convenient way to derail any potential criticism of what many people see as absurd positions & silly missteps. I see you also quietly slipped in an ad hominem. I'm surprised you didn't go for the trifecta and blame The Patriarchy™.
    - fixxer 11y ago
      Kind of like when I criticize Obama and people fire back that my negative opinion of his position on {trade, privacy, entitlements, ... } is due to my innate racism.
      - mplscoder 11y ago
        Your racism is going to morph into sexism when you don't like Hillary. For some reason the Left is allowed to get away with such intellectually bankrupt arguments.
        fixxer 11y ago
        Maybe we'll get Bernie and I'll get accused of having something against geriatric white men. Would be a nice change.
  - brighteyes 11y ago
    You seem full of hate yourself, with how you go on about "white male nerds" and their faults.
  - leereeves 11y ago
    > When you're full of hate, you're not going to let logic or facts stop you from hating and spewing lies... You should think about that...
  - Sevrene 11y ago
    >People on here love to hate on Ellen because she's a woman who made it as CEO of a popular tech company. The white male nerds on HN will use any conspiracy theory or baseless attack on her character to try to discredit her. Do you realise that attributing any controversy about Ellen Pao to 'white male nerds' who are 'trying to use anything to attack and discredit her just because she's a woman' is itself a conspiracy theory, with just as much evidence as that which you criticise?
    - brighteyes 11y ago
      And not just a conspiracy theory, but one founded on bigotry and hatred.
    - SturgeonsLaw 11y ago
      That's right, you don't see the same level of vitriol directed at Marissa Mayer or Anne Wojcicki for a reason. The posts I've read have overwhelmingly focused on her litigation actions, her husband's shady hedge fund dealings and her desire to turn reddit into a "safe space" through censorship - all of which are, in my opinion, legitimate points of concern.
- hoopd 11y ago
  I agree the number is probably a coincidence and it looks bad to focus on it. But the lawsuits in her husband's past are important to keep in mind due to the similarities with her current case.
nashequilibrium 11y ago
Once again, people try to use her husband to get to her. It would be really silly for her to do that knowing how much she and her husband get scrutinized, so i don't buy it.
- fixxer 11y ago
  Her husband is shady as fuck. I think it would be weird if people didn't scrutinize. If you knowingly are married to someone with low moral character who tries to exploit the legal system, then what does that say about your character? I support equal pay for equal work. The stench of unethical behavior is on both sides of the Ellen Pao saga and I'm more likely to label it a con than gender rights activism.
  - nashequilibrium 11y ago
    Shady, do you know him? Do you know his story, how he was denied pay because a person of his kind did not deserve that pay that was owed to him? Now, you wonder why people have called you out for being a racist before, you just like Fox news always on the other side of the fence coincidentally!
    - fixxer 11y ago
      I don't own a TV, let alone watch Fox News. His legal actions, including judgements against him, more than suggest my claim. If you're going to choose a poster child for the plight of bisexual black men, please pick one that doesn't also happen to be a grifter.
dataker 11y ago
Makes onde wonder if such unscrupulous lawsuit comes from her real desire, or her husband's. If the former is true, it's quite ludicrous to believe the case would be an achievement for feminists.
wodenokoto 11y ago
So what if she did base the amount on her husbands debt? She believes she's in the right about the discrimination suit and wants to further the case. She is, however willing to stop for a certain amount of money. What is wrong with that amount being the amount needed to get out of a tough financial situation? She wants something for giving up being right, and if that debt is a big strain on her family, then why not equate that strain with vindication and equal them out?

colinbartlett 11y ago

I keep seeing this argument made and I don't buy it. Certainly the sums of both cases are not exactly $2.7M. Those are just rounded numbers. And certainly there is some very specific list of expenses somewhere justifying that request. Plus, if her husband owes that debt isn't it reasonable to surmise he owes others? Do you really think she would take the specific amount her husband owes in an unrelated case and the demand that exact amount from an unaffiliated party in an unrelated case? This is nonsense. Coincidental indeed and not even a very strong coincidence. It's rounding.

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spcoll 11y ago
People on here love to hate on Ellen because she's a woman who made it as CEO of a popular tech company. The white male nerds on HN will use any conspiracy theory or baseless attack on her character to try to discredit her. When you're full of hate, you're not going to let logic or facts stop you from hating and spewing lies...
- nateabele 11y ago
  Wow, what a convenient way to derail any potential criticism of what many people see as absurd positions & silly missteps. I see you also quietly slipped in an ad hominem. I'm surprised you didn't go for the trifecta and blame The Patriarchy™.
  - fixxer 11y ago
    Kind of like when I criticize Obama and people fire back that my negative opinion of his position on {trade, privacy, entitlements, ... } is due to my innate racism.
    - mplscoder 11y ago
      Your racism is going to morph into sexism when you don't like Hillary. For some reason the Left is allowed to get away with such intellectually bankrupt arguments.
      - fixxer 11y ago
        Maybe we'll get Bernie and I'll get accused of having something against geriatric white men. Would be a nice change.
- brighteyes 11y ago
  You seem full of hate yourself, with how you go on about "white male nerds" and their faults.
- leereeves 11y ago
  > When you're full of hate, you're not going to let logic or facts stop you from hating and spewing lies... You should think about that...
- Sevrene 11y ago
  >People on here love to hate on Ellen because she's a woman who made it as CEO of a popular tech company. The white male nerds on HN will use any conspiracy theory or baseless attack on her character to try to discredit her. Do you realise that attributing any controversy about Ellen Pao to 'white male nerds' who are 'trying to use anything to attack and discredit her just because she's a woman' is itself a conspiracy theory, with just as much evidence as that which you criticise?
  - brighteyes 11y ago
    And not just a conspiracy theory, but one founded on bigotry and hatred.
  - SturgeonsLaw 11y ago
    That's right, you don't see the same level of vitriol directed at Marissa Mayer or Anne Wojcicki for a reason. The posts I've read have overwhelmingly focused on her litigation actions, her husband's shady hedge fund dealings and her desire to turn reddit into a "safe space" through censorship - all of which are, in my opinion, legitimate points of concern.
hoopd 11y ago
I agree the number is probably a coincidence and it looks bad to focus on it. But the lawsuits in her husband's past are important to keep in mind due to the similarities with her current case.

nashequilibrium 11y ago

Once again, people try to use her husband to get to her. It would be really silly for her to do that knowing how much she and her husband get scrutinized, so i don't buy it.

fixxer 11y ago
Her husband is shady as fuck. I think it would be weird if people didn't scrutinize. If you knowingly are married to someone with low moral character who tries to exploit the legal system, then what does that say about your character? I support equal pay for equal work. The stench of unethical behavior is on both sides of the Ellen Pao saga and I'm more likely to label it a con than gender rights activism.
- nashequilibrium 11y ago
  Shady, do you know him? Do you know his story, how he was denied pay because a person of his kind did not deserve that pay that was owed to him? Now, you wonder why people have called you out for being a racist before, you just like Fox news always on the other side of the fence coincidentally!
  - fixxer 11y ago
    I don't own a TV, let alone watch Fox News. His legal actions, including judgements against him, more than suggest my claim. If you're going to choose a poster child for the plight of bisexual black men, please pick one that doesn't also happen to be a grifter.

dataker 11y ago

Makes onde wonder if such unscrupulous lawsuit comes from her real desire, or her husband's. If the former is true, it's quite ludicrous to believe the case would be an achievement for feminists.

wodenokoto 11y ago

So what if she did base the amount on her husbands debt? She believes she's in the right about the discrimination suit and wants to further the case. She is, however willing to stop for a certain amount of money. What is wrong with that amount being the amount needed to get out of a tough financial situation? She wants something for giving up being right, and if that debt is a big strain on her family, then why not equate that strain with vindication and equal them out?