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I'm not clear how the Patriot Act (if that's the "something" you mention) has anything to do with a state-sponsored advanced persistent threat. Can you explain?

by nerdy 11y ago

fweespeech 11y ago
> The federal personnel office learned of the data breach after it began to toughen its cybersecurity defense system. When it discovered malicious activity, authorities used a detection system called EINSTEIN to unearth the information breach in April, the Department of Homeland Security said. http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/federal-agency-hacked-personnel-management/ http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/federal-agency-hacked... They waited until Thursday to reveal it. The timing is more than coincidence. Lol.
- nerdy 11y ago
  So why not release it Monday/Tuesday? Thursday is sneakier?
  - toomuchtodo 11y ago
    They knew in April, they waited until right after Section 215 of the Patriot Act expired June 1st. Section 215 is the piece of legislation the NSA used as justification for its carte blanche collection of data in the US.
    - nerdy 11y ago
      What I'm trying to say is that I don't think it furthers their goal. It isn't like some terrorist act occurred which would've been uncovered with Section 215 still active. This happened on their watch and under the so-called protection of the Patriot Act. To me, it seems like just another example of the Patriot Act not protecting people.
      - toomuchtodo 11y ago
        You're right on both counts, but keep in mind how few people are going to understand that. The media is going to report it as "rabble rabble rabble Chinese hackers because patriot act expired".
      - fweespeech 11y ago
        How much would you like to bet that this will be spun as they need more powers like Section 215 and people will believe them in large numbers?
    - reagency 11y ago
      Wouldn't they prefer to release the news before the vote?
      - JupiterMoon 11y ago
        The vote does not significantly affect their technical or legal capabilities. There are plenty of other laws they can invoke - or just relay the raw data feed to the UK and get the UK to do the dirty work. I think that it is principle of voting against surveillance that they want to quash before it becomes a habit.
  - fweespeech 11y ago
    Or y'know, it doesn't matter the exact day as long as they interrupt the news cycle and spin it their way?

I'm not clear how the Patriot Act (if that's the "something" you mention) has anything to do with a state-sponsored advanced persistent threat. Can you explain?

by nerdy 11y ago

I'm not clear how the Patriot Act (if that's the "something" you mention) has anything to do with a state-sponsored advanced persistent threat. Can you explain?

fweespeech 11y ago

> The federal personnel office learned of the data breach after it began to toughen its cybersecurity defense system. When it discovered malicious activity, authorities used a detection system called EINSTEIN to unearth the information breach in April, the Department of Homeland Security said. http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/federal-agency-hacked-personnel-management/ http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/federal-agency-hacked... They waited until Thursday to reveal it. The timing is more than coincidence. Lol.

nerdy 11y ago
So why not release it Monday/Tuesday? Thursday is sneakier?
- toomuchtodo 11y ago
  They knew in April, they waited until right after Section 215 of the Patriot Act expired June 1st. Section 215 is the piece of legislation the NSA used as justification for its carte blanche collection of data in the US.
  - nerdy 11y ago
    What I'm trying to say is that I don't think it furthers their goal. It isn't like some terrorist act occurred which would've been uncovered with Section 215 still active. This happened on their watch and under the so-called protection of the Patriot Act. To me, it seems like just another example of the Patriot Act not protecting people.
    - toomuchtodo 11y ago
      You're right on both counts, but keep in mind how few people are going to understand that. The media is going to report it as "rabble rabble rabble Chinese hackers because patriot act expired".
    - fweespeech 11y ago
      How much would you like to bet that this will be spun as they need more powers like Section 215 and people will believe them in large numbers?
  - reagency 11y ago
    Wouldn't they prefer to release the news before the vote?
    - JupiterMoon 11y ago
      The vote does not significantly affect their technical or legal capabilities. There are plenty of other laws they can invoke - or just relay the raw data feed to the UK and get the UK to do the dirty work. I think that it is principle of voting against surveillance that they want to quash before it becomes a habit.
- fweespeech 11y ago
  Or y'know, it doesn't matter the exact day as long as they interrupt the news cycle and spin it their way?