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Also, is strong security something people expect out of a garage door remote? It's never been a feature, as far as I can remember. Not that there isn't a marke

Also, is strong security something people expect out of a garage door remote? It's never been a feature, as far as I can remember. Not that there isn't a market of people who do want for security in their remote, or would but don't yet know it...

LukeShu 11y ago
Absolutely; everyone just assumes it's already secure, or at least as secure as the deadbolt on their front door.
- CONTRARlAN 11y ago
  Which is only as secure as the door frame it goes into, which usually means: pretty insecure. Still, I agree with the premise that it's about assumptions, and if people can be made to realize that their garage door openers are inherently pretty insecure, and feel that that presents a substantial, then there's a market there. But until it becomes a problem that's common enough for media outlets to scare people about it, there probably isn't a large market yet. (Any marketing plan for an endeavor like that should have a PR budget from day one, since that's exactly how such stories tend to become news segments.)
  - c22 11y ago
    > Which is only as secure as the door frame it goes into, which usually means: pretty insecure. But the door frame/deadbolt is still more secure than the remote controlled garage door because abusing the former mode of entry is more likely to draw concern from passers by and leaves a permanent record of your passage.
    - CONTRARlAN 11y ago
      I think that's one valid way of looking at it, and many technically-inclined people would be inclined to agree, I'd imagine. But another way of looking at it, and one I suspect most non-technical people would, is that it just takes one motivated person of roughly-average strength to break a doorframe. It takes someone with fairly uncommon technical sophistication to make one of these devices. Once someone mass-produces them and sells them in real volume that perception could flip, but right now I'm far more concerned about a flimsy doorframe–which leads to where I live and sleep–than I am about someone rigging up a way to open my garage door–which only gets them into a detached garage where insured stuff is kept. The odds of a break-in being by force (whether against a door frame or a window) are just vastly higher.

LukeShu 11y ago

Absolutely; everyone just assumes it's already secure, or at least as secure as the deadbolt on their front door.

CONTRARlAN 11y ago
Which is only as secure as the door frame it goes into, which usually means: pretty insecure. Still, I agree with the premise that it's about assumptions, and if people can be made to realize that their garage door openers are inherently pretty insecure, and feel that that presents a substantial, then there's a market there. But until it becomes a problem that's common enough for media outlets to scare people about it, there probably isn't a large market yet. (Any marketing plan for an endeavor like that should have a PR budget from day one, since that's exactly how such stories tend to become news segments.)
- c22 11y ago
  > Which is only as secure as the door frame it goes into, which usually means: pretty insecure. But the door frame/deadbolt is still more secure than the remote controlled garage door because abusing the former mode of entry is more likely to draw concern from passers by and leaves a permanent record of your passage.
  - CONTRARlAN 11y ago
    I think that's one valid way of looking at it, and many technically-inclined people would be inclined to agree, I'd imagine. But another way of looking at it, and one I suspect most non-technical people would, is that it just takes one motivated person of roughly-average strength to break a doorframe. It takes someone with fairly uncommon technical sophistication to make one of these devices. Once someone mass-produces them and sells them in real volume that perception could flip, but right now I'm far more concerned about a flimsy doorframe–which leads to where I live and sleep–than I am about someone rigging up a way to open my garage door–which only gets them into a detached garage where insured stuff is kept. The odds of a break-in being by force (whether against a door frame or a window) are just vastly higher.