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I am a student in Milan (Politecnico di Milano) and I am really surprised that Italy does not even appear as popular destination. The fees is a little higher t

by siscia 11y ago

I am a student in Milan (Politecnico di Milano) and I am really surprised that Italy does not even appear as popular destination. The fees is a little higher than in Germany, but no much, and I really believe that our quality of teaching is at least comparable. Italy school is very theoretical while German one is more practical. By the way only 280€ in Munich seems a little off to me...

_delirium 11y ago
Are Italian universities cheap even for non-EU citizens? That's the part that is somewhat unusual about Germany's scheme, that it's near-free for anyone. Most EU countries with low tuition extend that only to EU citizens, and charge higher (sometimes UK-level) fees to non-EU foreigners. For example in Denmark there is zero tuition for EU citizens, but €10,000/yr tuition for non-EU citizens. This is because under the EU's equal-treatment provisions, EU countries have to treat other EU students equally with their own nationals. So those with no/low tuition for domestic students have to offer the no/low tuition also to other EU students. But they can chage non-EU nationals what they want, and many are lately treating foreign students (often from Asia) as a source of income.
- siscia 11y ago
  This is the relevant website of my university: http://www.polinternational.polimi.it/how-to-apply/fees/ http://www.polinternational.polimi.it/how-to-apply/fees/ The total cost for one year is ~3000€ however, depending on your financial situation you end up paying less, ~2000€ but even less honestly... However the bachelor course are in Italian.
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more_original 11y ago
> By the way only 280€ in Munich seems a little off to me... Yes, it's more to the tune of 500€ at average for a room in a shared appartment (Source: https://www.wg-suche.de/magazin/wg-zimmer-preise-an-hochschulstandorten/ https://www.wg-suche.de/magazin/wg-zimmer-preise-an-hochschu...). It's probably possible to find something a bit cheaper, but 280€ would be very optimistic. Maybe this is the price of some University accommodation, which is very limited in capacity, i.e. impossible to get.
- legulere 11y ago
  They often sort the applicants by who needs it the most (=distance to where they're from)
  - more_original 11y ago
    I'm not sure that's the case in Munich. There are special arrangements for exchange students, but it seems that everyone else is treated in the same way. For university accommodation there are waiting lists for various buildings, with waiting times of up to two years. In order to give new students a chance to get accommodation at all, they hold a lottery every semester exclusively for new students. If you don't win, then you're put on the waiting list with your original date of application. Oh, and all this is possible only for students of low income (who are eligible for BaföG).
zerr 11y ago
It's about perspective. Besides education, one might plan to land a job nearby. Italy is very expensive while salaries are ridiculously low compared to northern Europe.
- siscia 11y ago
  Definitely, I won't suggest to anybody to work in Italy, however the education is GREAT

by siscia 11y ago

_delirium 11y ago

Are Italian universities cheap even for non-EU citizens? That's the part that is somewhat unusual about Germany's scheme, that it's near-free for anyone. Most EU countries with low tuition extend that only to EU citizens, and charge higher (sometimes UK-level) fees to non-EU foreigners. For example in Denmark there is zero tuition for EU citizens, but €10,000/yr tuition for non-EU citizens. This is because under the EU's equal-treatment provisions, EU countries have to treat other EU students equally with their own nationals. So those with no/low tuition for domestic students have to offer the no/low tuition also to other EU students. But they can chage non-EU nationals what they want, and many are lately treating foreign students (often from Asia) as a source of income.

siscia 11y ago
This is the relevant website of my university: http://www.polinternational.polimi.it/how-to-apply/fees/ http://www.polinternational.polimi.it/how-to-apply/fees/ The total cost for one year is ~3000€ however, depending on your financial situation you end up paying less, ~2000€ but even less honestly... However the bachelor course are in Italian.
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more_original 11y ago

> By the way only 280€ in Munich seems a little off to me... Yes, it's more to the tune of 500€ at average for a room in a shared appartment (Source: https://www.wg-suche.de/magazin/wg-zimmer-preise-an-hochschulstandorten/ https://www.wg-suche.de/magazin/wg-zimmer-preise-an-hochschu...). It's probably possible to find something a bit cheaper, but 280€ would be very optimistic. Maybe this is the price of some University accommodation, which is very limited in capacity, i.e. impossible to get.

legulere 11y ago
They often sort the applicants by who needs it the most (=distance to where they're from)
- more_original 11y ago
  I'm not sure that's the case in Munich. There are special arrangements for exchange students, but it seems that everyone else is treated in the same way. For university accommodation there are waiting lists for various buildings, with waiting times of up to two years. In order to give new students a chance to get accommodation at all, they hold a lottery every semester exclusively for new students. If you don't win, then you're put on the waiting list with your original date of application. Oh, and all this is possible only for students of low income (who are eligible for BaföG).

zerr 11y ago

It's about perspective. Besides education, one might plan to land a job nearby. Italy is very expensive while salaries are ridiculously low compared to northern Europe.

siscia 11y ago
Definitely, I won't suggest to anybody to work in Italy, however the education is GREAT