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> And yes, that does happen. A lot. You don't seem to have a grasp of the real world here. What actually happens is that people will take credit or get credit

> And yes, that does happen. A lot. You don't seem to have a grasp of the real world here. What actually happens is that people will take credit or get credit from other's ideas regardless of gender. That's what happens a lot. It's only your own bias that you think it's noticeably women being the victims. Welcome to the world of equal opportunity.

BlackAura 11y ago
And I should believe you, rather than the women to whom this happens all the time, because... why?
- skissane 11y ago
  I just asked my partner if this ever happened to her. She told me that it did once, but it was a female colleague who did it to her, not a man. I asked her if a man ever did it to her, she said she couldn't remember that ever occurring.
  - morpheous 11y ago
    Drawing conclusions from a sample size of 1. Never a good practise
    - skissane 11y ago
      I didn't draw any conclusions, I just shared my partner's experiences without any further comment. I don't doubt some women have had the experience BlackAura is referring to. But I don't believe it is universal either, since my partner does not report having that experience. As to what percentage of women have experienced this: I don't know, and no one in this conversation has produced an answer to that question.
      - smallworld 11y ago
        The fact that your partner does not report having that experience does not literally mean that she has not had that experience. There are several possible reasons for this, and I do not want you to think I am passing judgement, but your statement is not convincing on its own. I have watched this happen to women who were oblivious - who behave as though men stealing women's ideas is the proper way of reality, and yet they will loudly voice an objection when a woman does the same.
        skissane 11y ago
        I shared with her your theory, and she does not believe it is true in her case. I don't doubt that it happened in the cases you observed, but that gives me no reason to doubt her statement that it didn't happen to her. I wasn't there for the vast majority of her working life, you weren't there for any of it, she was - I think she is a much more of an authority on her own life experiences than you or I are. And, who should I believe: you, or the mother of my son?

BlackAura 11y ago

And I should believe you, rather than the women to whom this happens all the time, because... why?

skissane 11y ago
I just asked my partner if this ever happened to her. She told me that it did once, but it was a female colleague who did it to her, not a man. I asked her if a man ever did it to her, she said she couldn't remember that ever occurring.
- morpheous 11y ago
  Drawing conclusions from a sample size of 1. Never a good practise
  - skissane 11y ago
    I didn't draw any conclusions, I just shared my partner's experiences without any further comment. I don't doubt some women have had the experience BlackAura is referring to. But I don't believe it is universal either, since my partner does not report having that experience. As to what percentage of women have experienced this: I don't know, and no one in this conversation has produced an answer to that question.
    - smallworld 11y ago
      The fact that your partner does not report having that experience does not literally mean that she has not had that experience. There are several possible reasons for this, and I do not want you to think I am passing judgement, but your statement is not convincing on its own. I have watched this happen to women who were oblivious - who behave as though men stealing women's ideas is the proper way of reality, and yet they will loudly voice an objection when a woman does the same.
      - skissane 11y ago
        I shared with her your theory, and she does not believe it is true in her case. I don't doubt that it happened in the cases you observed, but that gives me no reason to doubt her statement that it didn't happen to her. I wasn't there for the vast majority of her working life, you weren't there for any of it, she was - I think she is a much more of an authority on her own life experiences than you or I are. And, who should I believe: you, or the mother of my son?