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>legal foreign spying I'm not a lawyer, but that doesn't sound right.
by josu 11y ago
>legal foreign spying
I'm not a lawyer, but that doesn't sound right.
- dragonwriter 11y agoUS law does not prohibit US intelligence services from spying on foreign countries. Quite the opposite. So, from a US perspective, NSA foreign intelligence gathering (specifically SIGINT gathering, its whole mandate) is, generally speaking, legal.
- ThomPete 11y agoIt's legal in the US not in the country its done to.
- TeMPOraL 11y agoSo if you get caught in the target country spying on them, you'll get prosecuted and then go to jail or get executed. If you don't, or if you spy remotely (SIGINT), you won't. Simple as that. Espionage is older than nation states and is legalized in countries doing the spying - that's why you have official intelligence agencies.
- josu 11y agoSo what does the US law say about spying on your own citizens? Wasn't the NSA acting within its powers too?
- dragonwriter 11y ago> So what does the US law say about spying on your own citizens? Given the hierarchy of law (e.g., the preeminence of the Constitution over other laws) and matters of interpretation, that's somewhat in dispute (see, for interpretation issues, e.g., the 2nd Circuit ruling finding that the mass metadata collection program was, contrary to the government's claims, authorized by Section 215.) > Wasn't the NSA acting within its powers too? Again, that matter is, at best, considerably in dispute.
- josu 11y agoThanks. Then I really don't see the distinction that tzs is making between legal and illegal spying. It seems like nothing has changed yet, so when he refers to "illegal spying" what is he talking about.
- irishcoffee 11y agoWhy do you feel that way?