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In reality using Apple products reduces your privacy. How ? If you use Google's products(and who doesn't use Google Search ? ) , Google already knows plenty ab

by minthd 11y ago

In reality using Apple products reduces your privacy. How ? If you use Google's products(and who doesn't use Google Search ? ) , Google already knows plenty about you. And even if you don't use Google products, Google knows plenty about you, since it's tracking software is installed in large percentage of sites, etc. And if you add machine learning on top of that , the amount that Google knows about you is great - even if you use Apple's products. In reality, by using Apple's products, you don't gain privacy , you lose privacy - now two companies know a lot about you, instead of one. Also this exposes your data for security bugs from both companies - thus making it easier for third parties to go at it.

dokument 11y ago
or you know, stuff like this [1] "new remote exploit leaves most macs vulnerable to permanent backdooring" [1] http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/new-remote-exploit-leaves-most-macs-vulnerable-to-permanent-backdooring/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/new-remote-exploit-l...
themgt 11y ago
Really? All your documents, finances, photos, music, movies, messages, health data, viewing patterns - might as well just give that to Google since they already have your search queries? That doesn't make any sense.
- minthd 11y ago
  You underestimate the amount of intelligence Google's search data + smart machine learning can deduce about you. Remember how in the sherlock holmes stories, sherlock can deduce huge amount about people , from tiny clues ? How much do you think sherlock could deduce from Google searches - where people usually bare their souls ,on ALL their issues, from the insignificant to the critical? Machine learning can, to some extent , be that sherlock, but if someone with the right investigantional skills diggs through your search data - he can be sherlock too. And since Google does know all that about you, in most cases ,i think that keeping the rest of the data won't be the thing that "saves" you - maybe with the exception of your browsing patterns - but since Google has trackers in most web sites - they already know a large part of your browsing patterns - so you're quite defenseless there. TL;DR - Google search knows a huge amount about you, And with that data, sherlock holmes(or a decent investigator, or probably an AI) can know almost everything on you!
Drakim 11y ago
Fortunately any company that sits on information about you can sell it to third parties, and has little incentive to not do so, meaning you won't be restricted to just one company sitting on your privacy.
- minthd 11y ago
  As far as i understand Google's business model doesn't really sells your data. It's an interesting question though how much of your data does leak to third parties via Google's ads etc,in a way that hurts your personal privacy. But i think Google's interests is that none of that leaks so they'll still have that business advantage. One exception is Google and NSA tracking - but that is mostly a political question as i'm pretty sure the NSA has full access to Apple - it would be naive to think otherwise.

by minthd 11y ago

dokument 11y ago

or you know, stuff like this [1] "new remote exploit leaves most macs vulnerable to permanent backdooring" [1] http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/new-remote-exploit-leaves-most-macs-vulnerable-to-permanent-backdooring/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/new-remote-exploit-l...

themgt 11y ago

Really? All your documents, finances, photos, music, movies, messages, health data, viewing patterns - might as well just give that to Google since they already have your search queries? That doesn't make any sense.

minthd 11y ago
You underestimate the amount of intelligence Google's search data + smart machine learning can deduce about you. Remember how in the sherlock holmes stories, sherlock can deduce huge amount about people , from tiny clues ? How much do you think sherlock could deduce from Google searches - where people usually bare their souls ,on ALL their issues, from the insignificant to the critical? Machine learning can, to some extent , be that sherlock, but if someone with the right investigantional skills diggs through your search data - he can be sherlock too. And since Google does know all that about you, in most cases ,i think that keeping the rest of the data won't be the thing that "saves" you - maybe with the exception of your browsing patterns - but since Google has trackers in most web sites - they already know a large part of your browsing patterns - so you're quite defenseless there. TL;DR - Google search knows a huge amount about you, And with that data, sherlock holmes(or a decent investigator, or probably an AI) can know almost everything on you!

Drakim 11y ago

Fortunately any company that sits on information about you can sell it to third parties, and has little incentive to not do so, meaning you won't be restricted to just one company sitting on your privacy.

minthd 11y ago
As far as i understand Google's business model doesn't really sells your data. It's an interesting question though how much of your data does leak to third parties via Google's ads etc,in a way that hurts your personal privacy. But i think Google's interests is that none of that leaks so they'll still have that business advantage. One exception is Google and NSA tracking - but that is mostly a political question as i'm pretty sure the NSA has full access to Apple - it would be naive to think otherwise.