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I run a ~10 person completely remote SaaS company and that matches our tools exactly, even down to the way we set up our HipChat rooms* . For MobileJazz or oth

by kauffj 11y ago

I run a ~10 person completely remote SaaS company and that matches our tools exactly, even down to the way we set up our HipChat rooms* . For MobileJazz or others that operate completely remotely, how often do you meet face-to-face? We assemble the team twice a year. It's definitely possible to run a company completely remotely, but I've still seen no remote substitute for the interpersonal bonding that happens in meatspace. * We don't invoice, so no Harvest.

philbarr 11y ago
I work for a company that is completely remote, and we have an all-hands meeting 2-4 times a year. As an employee I find I need these meetings just to put faces to names, at the very least. It also means you get a broader view of what everyone else is doing. It's easy to have a very narrow view of just the project you're working on, so you lose some of the cross-pollination of ideas between projects.
- mcdougle 11y ago
  I work for an overly-corporate company and we have those all-hands meetings 2-4 times a week.
- jgimenez 11y ago
  At Mobile Jazz we have a weekly meeting with everyone. We share what we have been working on and especially the learning experiences of that week, regardless if they are related to work or not. This helped us know each other a bit better and also speak about things unrelated to work. Also we pair people from different projects to work together for a couple of hours per week, two different people every week. This helped a lot in learning from other team members but also in general helping each other more often, because we now know better who to ask when a certain question appears.
normloman 11y ago
Do you absolutely need interpersonal bonding? I work in an office, and I don't feel any sort of bond with my coworkers. Work still gets done.
- shalmanese 11y ago
  People talk about work as if it's all the same thing and then wonder why there's vehement disagreements all the time. From my experience, an all remote team works especially well if either: 1. The employees are also the customers. This means you can trust everyone's judgement about decisions to a large extent and you can afford to skimp on user research and not have it overly impact the product. If you're making a SAAS tool for developers, then a lot of hard design stuff becomes easy. 2. The metrics for success are very clear. If everyone has agreed on a common goal and it's easy to evaluate yourself based on that goal, then everyone can work productively with a minimum of discussion. Backend services tend to work this way. Once the API is defined, you're judged on performance, uptime, usage and other fairly objective metrics. 3. The business can be split into fairly modular components with strong contracts between each component. If you only need to communicate at the boundary, then you have enough bandwidth to do it remotely. A lot of ad tech is this way where certain business functions become easy to abstract away from others. If you're building a consumer facing product though, the line between sales and marketing say, is never rigidly defined and there's fluid, complicated feedback loops between the two and ideally they should be co-located so they can collaborate in unpredictable ways. Where interpersonal bonding becomes the most important is building consensus over risky decisions. If Bill proposes a wild and crazy idea that needs everyone's buy-in but nobody thinks will work, if you don't trust Bill, then you're going to push back because you think it'll be harmful for the company/team. However, if you've spent a lot of time with Bill and understand the way he thinks and believe he might be crazy like a fox, then you might jump on board even if you don't think it'll work because Bill is awesome.
znq 11y ago
At Mobile Jazz we do have an office in Barcelona, Dubai and Munich. And most people actually enjoy working from the office and go there quite often. But additionally we do things together, like going a month to Thailand, going for a skiing trip to Austria, then hiking in the Pyrenees and soon we'll go for a kitesurfing trip to Mauritius. So the meatspace bonding is actually very, very strong in our team.

by kauffj 11y ago

philbarr 11y ago

I work for a company that is completely remote, and we have an all-hands meeting 2-4 times a year. As an employee I find I need these meetings just to put faces to names, at the very least. It also means you get a broader view of what everyone else is doing. It's easy to have a very narrow view of just the project you're working on, so you lose some of the cross-pollination of ideas between projects.

mcdougle 11y ago
I work for an overly-corporate company and we have those all-hands meetings 2-4 times a week.
jgimenez 11y ago
At Mobile Jazz we have a weekly meeting with everyone. We share what we have been working on and especially the learning experiences of that week, regardless if they are related to work or not. This helped us know each other a bit better and also speak about things unrelated to work. Also we pair people from different projects to work together for a couple of hours per week, two different people every week. This helped a lot in learning from other team members but also in general helping each other more often, because we now know better who to ask when a certain question appears.

normloman 11y ago

Do you absolutely need interpersonal bonding? I work in an office, and I don't feel any sort of bond with my coworkers. Work still gets done.

shalmanese 11y ago
People talk about work as if it's all the same thing and then wonder why there's vehement disagreements all the time. From my experience, an all remote team works especially well if either: 1. The employees are also the customers. This means you can trust everyone's judgement about decisions to a large extent and you can afford to skimp on user research and not have it overly impact the product. If you're making a SAAS tool for developers, then a lot of hard design stuff becomes easy. 2. The metrics for success are very clear. If everyone has agreed on a common goal and it's easy to evaluate yourself based on that goal, then everyone can work productively with a minimum of discussion. Backend services tend to work this way. Once the API is defined, you're judged on performance, uptime, usage and other fairly objective metrics. 3. The business can be split into fairly modular components with strong contracts between each component. If you only need to communicate at the boundary, then you have enough bandwidth to do it remotely. A lot of ad tech is this way where certain business functions become easy to abstract away from others. If you're building a consumer facing product though, the line between sales and marketing say, is never rigidly defined and there's fluid, complicated feedback loops between the two and ideally they should be co-located so they can collaborate in unpredictable ways. Where interpersonal bonding becomes the most important is building consensus over risky decisions. If Bill proposes a wild and crazy idea that needs everyone's buy-in but nobody thinks will work, if you don't trust Bill, then you're going to push back because you think it'll be harmful for the company/team. However, if you've spent a lot of time with Bill and understand the way he thinks and believe he might be crazy like a fox, then you might jump on board even if you don't think it'll work because Bill is awesome.

znq 11y ago

At Mobile Jazz we do have an office in Barcelona, Dubai and Munich. And most people actually enjoy working from the office and go there quite often. But additionally we do things together, like going a month to Thailand, going for a skiing trip to Austria, then hiking in the Pyrenees and soon we'll go for a kitesurfing trip to Mauritius. So the meatspace bonding is actually very, very strong in our team.