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>It's funny how Google advocates always "bash" apple for being "closed source" when this company ships the most popular Unix in the world... and all of their pr

by ac29 11y ago

>It's funny how Google advocates always "bash" apple for being "closed source" when this company ships the most popular Unix in the world... and all of their products, even the watch, are based on it. Android ships far more units than OS X/iOS and their derivatives do.

sbuk 11y ago
Android is not UNIX - it's GNU[0]/Linux-based, which is UNIX-like. iOS is also not UNIX, which is based on OS X but not UNIX Certified. OS X is UNIX. [0] GNU's Not Unix
- ac29 11y ago
  I stand corrected. You appear to be technically correct that OS X is "Unix" [0] not Unix-like or a Unix clone like Linux-based operating systems. Legal precedent established in the SCO-linux cases [1] seems to confirm this technicality. I think the distinction is pedantic, but I think we can agree that Android is the most widely shipped OS based on a Unix-like kernel. [0] http://www.opengroup.org/csq/search/t=XY1.html http://www.opengroup.org/csq/search/t=XY1.html [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO%E2%80%93Linux_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO%E2%80%93Linux_controversie...
  - sbuk 11y ago
    >"I think the distinction is pedantic" It is, but no more than that of the OP and you. It's ultimately irrelevant to this discussion.
- sdenton4 11y ago
  And while technically unix, the command line tools which ship are so horribly out of date as to be almost unusable.... Try using sftp on a mac sometime, if you enjoy the sensation of bleeding from your eyes.
  - sbuk 11y ago
    Works just fine for me. Sorry...
72deluxe 11y ago
It also makes me laugh that Google is doing Brillo, which is a stripped-down version of Android - surely Linux is enough? If you remove all the Androidyness from Android, it's Linux which is quite stripped down.... It's like a project that has no purpose.
- 72deluxe 11y ago
  I chortle as I am downvoted but I do honestly wonder who would use Brillo instead of a Linux installation? Even microcore is small enough.

by ac29 11y ago

sbuk 11y ago

Android is not UNIX - it's GNU[0]/Linux-based, which is UNIX-like. iOS is also not UNIX, which is based on OS X but not UNIX Certified. OS X is UNIX. [0] GNU's Not Unix

ac29 11y ago
I stand corrected. You appear to be technically correct that OS X is "Unix" [0] not Unix-like or a Unix clone like Linux-based operating systems. Legal precedent established in the SCO-linux cases [1] seems to confirm this technicality. I think the distinction is pedantic, but I think we can agree that Android is the most widely shipped OS based on a Unix-like kernel. [0] http://www.opengroup.org/csq/search/t=XY1.html http://www.opengroup.org/csq/search/t=XY1.html [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO%E2%80%93Linux_controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO%E2%80%93Linux_controversie...
- sbuk 11y ago
  >"I think the distinction is pedantic" It is, but no more than that of the OP and you. It's ultimately irrelevant to this discussion.
sdenton4 11y ago
And while technically unix, the command line tools which ship are so horribly out of date as to be almost unusable.... Try using sftp on a mac sometime, if you enjoy the sensation of bleeding from your eyes.
- sbuk 11y ago
  Works just fine for me. Sorry...

72deluxe 11y ago

It also makes me laugh that Google is doing Brillo, which is a stripped-down version of Android - surely Linux is enough? If you remove all the Androidyness from Android, it's Linux which is quite stripped down.... It's like a project that has no purpose.

72deluxe 11y ago
I chortle as I am downvoted but I do honestly wonder who would use Brillo instead of a Linux installation? Even microcore is small enough.