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Re 1 - I agree that is by a mile the most problematic part of Google's business. It's not a problem that Google knows what's in the emails I store on their ser

Re 1 - I agree that is by a mile the most problematic part of Google's business. It's not a problem that Google knows what's in the emails I store on their servers -- of course they do, I put them there -- but it is problematic if they know I go to www.controversialsite.com when they should have no reason to. But the implication there is that Google's most privacy-invasive product, by a mile, is Google Analytics, which doesn't really help Cook's case in any meaningful way, because that has nothing to do with the Google services that compete with Apple.

magicalist 11y ago
Analytics uses first-party cookies for the site's domain, not your google cookie(s). And you'll have to take them at their word, but they don't combine it with some IP address trickiness or whatever (though that would be a pretty bad idea if you want decent profiles anyway): https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/6004245?hl=en https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/6004245?hl=en
- anon1385 11y ago
  That is just a Terms Of Service change away. Such legal changes aren't even unlikely: Google already changed their Terms of Service in the past to allow them to combine information from separate sites and services, which they didn't explicitly claim to do before[1]. The 'reassurances' provided in Google's Terms of Service don't mean jack shit when they have the power to change the terms in the future to whatever they want. [1] http://www.cnet.com/news/google-wants-ability-to-combine-your-user-data/# http://www.cnet.com/news/google-wants-ability-to-combine-you...!
  - magicalist 11y ago
    That would only work going forward. You wouldn't be able to merge the data retroactively. And why would they do that is the question. Again, since they don't serve google cookies on analytics this would be virtually useless. An IP address isn't much to go on. Even a 5% misidentification rate would lead to horribly polluted data about users very quickly.
- aiiane 11y ago
  There's also https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if you don't want Analytics tracking you.

magicalist 11y ago

Analytics uses first-party cookies for the site's domain, not your google cookie(s). And you'll have to take them at their word, but they don't combine it with some IP address trickiness or whatever (though that would be a pretty bad idea if you want decent profiles anyway): https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/6004245?hl=en https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/6004245?hl=en

anon1385 11y ago
That is just a Terms Of Service change away. Such legal changes aren't even unlikely: Google already changed their Terms of Service in the past to allow them to combine information from separate sites and services, which they didn't explicitly claim to do before[1]. The 'reassurances' provided in Google's Terms of Service don't mean jack shit when they have the power to change the terms in the future to whatever they want. [1] http://www.cnet.com/news/google-wants-ability-to-combine-your-user-data/# http://www.cnet.com/news/google-wants-ability-to-combine-you...!
- magicalist 11y ago
  That would only work going forward. You wouldn't be able to merge the data retroactively. And why would they do that is the question. Again, since they don't serve google cookies on analytics this would be virtually useless. An IP address isn't much to go on. Even a 5% misidentification rate would lead to horribly polluted data about users very quickly.
aiiane 11y ago
There's also https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout if you don't want Analytics tracking you.