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For the record, 1) Apple was the first to use USB even though it wasn't an Apple tech 2) Apple was the first to use Thunderbolt even though it wasn't an Apple

For the record, 1) Apple was the first to use USB even though it wasn't an Apple tech 2) Apple was the first to use Thunderbolt even though it wasn't an Apple tech 3) Apple is now the first to use USB 3 Type C (aka "USB-C") even though it wasn't an Apple tech (although rumor has it that Apple engineers had a lot of input on it) The technology you're probably confusing it with is FireWire, which WAS Apple tech.

izacus 11y ago
Hmm, I think you misunderstood my post - I did not mean to imply Thunderbolt is Apple tech, neither did I do so for USB-C. I'm not sure how FireWire is relevant here.
jrockway 11y ago
> 3) Apple is now the first to use USB 3 Type C Didn't the Chromebook Pixel 2 come out slightly before the MacBook?
- deleted 11y ago
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- lebrad 11y ago
  Yes, the MacBook was released April 10, but the Chromebook Pixel was already shipping USB type-C in March. Someone in the other Thunderbolt type-C thread also mistakenly claimed that Apple was the first company to use type-C.
  - Eric_WVGG 11y ago
    I believe the MacBook was technically the first USB-C device announced (and rumors about it go all the way back to last year), but the Pixel shipped earlier.
    - EddieRingle 11y ago
      Actually, the Nokia N1 tablet was announced late 2014, shipped in China earlier this year, and featured a Type C port.
- lectrick 11y ago
  Color me corrected.
  - jrockway 11y ago
    It's not a big deal. No doubt both products were being developed long before they were announced, so Apple and Google were both ready to be the early adopter. Now I'm just waiting for something to connect to the Pixel via a Type C <-> Type C connector, other than another Pixel ;)
    - pen2l 11y ago
      How about a 2TB SSD with a performance rating of 850 MBps? http://betanews.com/2015/06/01/sandisk-announces-2tb-ssd-in-its-new-extreme-900-lineup/ http://betanews.com/2015/06/01/sandisk-announces-2tb-ssd-in-...
freshyill 11y ago
This reminds me that Apple didn't work on it alone. I have a friend whose dad was an engineer at IBM. Back in high school (or maybe early college—late '90s at any rate), I was at his house one time and he unrolled a huge schematic… it was some kind of controller chip for Firewire. He's actually on a bunch of the patents for it.
TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago
Thunderbolt uses the Mini DisplayPort connector which was and is Apple tech, although DisplayPort itself is not.
- lsaferite 11y ago
  Not sure why, but calling the mDP connector 'technology' vs. 'engineering' seems wrong to me. They are electrically identical as far as I can tell. The only innovation was in scaling the connector size down.
dmayle 11y ago
* 1) Apple was the first to use USB even though it wasn't an Apple tech Not actually true. USB was shipping on PC motherboards for about a year before Apple went whole hog on USB. At the time, however, almost no one actually used USB (I think the first primary use of USB was keyboards and mice, and the first generation of USB keyboards and mice were notably inferior to their PS2 equivalents). Once Apple backed USB, other companies started to do the same.
- josefresco 11y ago
  More information here: http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/2785/did-apple-jumpstart-the-usb-market http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/2785/did-apple-j...
legulere 11y ago
The first USB-C device was the Nokia N1 released only in China and unveiled on 18 November 2014

izacus 11y ago

Hmm, I think you misunderstood my post - I did not mean to imply Thunderbolt is Apple tech, neither did I do so for USB-C. I'm not sure how FireWire is relevant here.

jrockway 11y ago

> 3) Apple is now the first to use USB 3 Type C Didn't the Chromebook Pixel 2 come out slightly before the MacBook?

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lebrad 11y ago
Yes, the MacBook was released April 10, but the Chromebook Pixel was already shipping USB type-C in March. Someone in the other Thunderbolt type-C thread also mistakenly claimed that Apple was the first company to use type-C.
- Eric_WVGG 11y ago
  I believe the MacBook was technically the first USB-C device announced (and rumors about it go all the way back to last year), but the Pixel shipped earlier.
  - EddieRingle 11y ago
    Actually, the Nokia N1 tablet was announced late 2014, shipped in China earlier this year, and featured a Type C port.
lectrick 11y ago
Color me corrected.
- jrockway 11y ago
  It's not a big deal. No doubt both products were being developed long before they were announced, so Apple and Google were both ready to be the early adopter. Now I'm just waiting for something to connect to the Pixel via a Type C <-> Type C connector, other than another Pixel ;)
  - pen2l 11y ago
    How about a 2TB SSD with a performance rating of 850 MBps? http://betanews.com/2015/06/01/sandisk-announces-2tb-ssd-in-its-new-extreme-900-lineup/ http://betanews.com/2015/06/01/sandisk-announces-2tb-ssd-in-...

freshyill 11y ago

This reminds me that Apple didn't work on it alone. I have a friend whose dad was an engineer at IBM. Back in high school (or maybe early college—late '90s at any rate), I was at his house one time and he unrolled a huge schematic… it was some kind of controller chip for Firewire. He's actually on a bunch of the patents for it.

TazeTSchnitzel 11y ago

Thunderbolt uses the Mini DisplayPort connector which was and is Apple tech, although DisplayPort itself is not.

lsaferite 11y ago
Not sure why, but calling the mDP connector 'technology' vs. 'engineering' seems wrong to me. They are electrically identical as far as I can tell. The only innovation was in scaling the connector size down.

dmayle 11y ago

* 1) Apple was the first to use USB even though it wasn't an Apple tech Not actually true. USB was shipping on PC motherboards for about a year before Apple went whole hog on USB. At the time, however, almost no one actually used USB (I think the first primary use of USB was keyboards and mice, and the first generation of USB keyboards and mice were notably inferior to their PS2 equivalents). Once Apple backed USB, other companies started to do the same.

josefresco 11y ago
More information here: http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/2785/did-apple-jumpstart-the-usb-market http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/2785/did-apple-j...

legulere 11y ago

The first USB-C device was the Nokia N1 released only in China and unveiled on 18 November 2014