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Thync – Calm or energy on demand
- lawlessone 11y agoI want to believe..
- zemvpferreira 11y agoMe too, but I'm more than a little sceptical about the claims they make. I'd be less wary if they had gone through FDA testing and could make proper, analytical statements. With $13M to spend, I'd expect them to be able to afford the process.
- tmikaeld 11y agoBut is it really a "drug" if it's not in a pill or food? Maybe that's the issue?
- bcg1 11y agoIn the US, FDA also regulates medical devices such as pacemakers etc
- skadamat 11y agoFDA process is way more than $13M generally for real medical devices. Regardless, if they're exempt they're exempt. FDA won't look at something that isn't regulated / has straightforward technology
- joshrotenberg 11y agoI'm vacillating wildly between "this is the future" and "we are all doomed".
- trevordixon 11y agoRelated? http://www.radiolab.org/story/9-volt-nirvana/ http://www.radiolab.org/story/9-volt-nirvana/
- beefman 11y agoI tried this. The sensation on the skin was a step below pain but a step above annoying and uncomfortable. I noticed no other effects. I only tried it once. YMMV Their website is impossibly vague. Have they ever disclosed the operating principle?
- runn1ng 11y agoThey do have some scientific publications here http://www.thync.com/resources/scientific-publications http://www.thync.com/resources/scientific-publications
- joelthelion 11y agoBut the only one that claims an effect on humans is a preprint, so it hasn't been peer-reviewed...
- joshrotenberg 11y agoI found the video to be incredibly vague and aside from being flashily produced and making me hungry it really didn't enlighten me to what the product does (or claims to do).
- jpwagner 11y agoI too have tried this. One of the founders walked me through the controls (which you can set to as mild or as uncomfortable as you like). Once on, you're supposed to try and forget about it. I think you'll notice that if you try to think too hard about your shirt collar, it will feel uncomfortable too. So if you "try to feel something", you may not like it, but if you attach it and walk around mingling at a party, you will notice soon that you feel quite easy-going.
- kennywinker 11y agoThe thought that you could be wearing this at a party mingling, and not be ACTIVELY talking about it is pretty ridiculous. They'd have to be all but ubiquitous to not be the subject of every convo you have every second while you're wearing it.
- dsjoerg 11y agoThe safety study (http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/432410/documents/peerJ.pdf?t=1433240450459 http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/432410/documents/peerJ.pdf?t=1...) ran over a six-week period. Has anyone seen studies that examine the longer-term effects or lack thereof? I'm not touching this stuff until someone has studied the long-term effects.
- knodi123 11y agoSeriously, meddling in the workings of a running engine that we barely understand? I'm all for other people early adopting this tech, but I probably won't try it on in the mall.
- mycelium 11y agoHistorical evidence indicates that brain experimentation is generally pretty great when done on other people and pretty awful when done on you.
- jadell 11y agoSkeptical on this implementation, but it raises an interesting question. How close are we to having wireheads/current addicts walking around with drouds attached to their heads at all times? At what point does current addiction become consumer-grade? I guess the bonus with this implementation is that it doesn't involve dropping a wire into your brain.
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- _jomo 11y agoWoah, I misread this for theync (NSFW!!) and wondered what that's doing on HN...
- alexsherrick 11y agoI think this is a cool idea; however, after paying $299 you only get 5 calm and 5 energy strips that are guaranteed for one time use. After that they cost $19.99 for another 5. This would be a very expensive "habit".
- sdm 11y agoOnly accepting American customers; disappointing. They should make that clear on their landing page.
- listic 11y agoNot to disagree with you, but if you're just interested in buying from them anyway, there are always reshipping services [1] that those living outside of the USA have to use more often than they would like. [1] google for 'reshipping service' https://www.google.ru/search?q=reshipping+service&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8; https://www.google.ru/search?q=reshipping+service&ie=utf-8&o... or try Shipito (I had success with it) https://www.shipito.com/ https://www.shipito.com/
- deciplex 11y agoAnother data point for Shipito - I've been using them for a few years to re-mail stuff to Japan from the US.
- eveningcoffee 11y agoSo these guys tested it http://www.gizmag.com/thync-hands-on-2/37820/ http://www.gizmag.com/thync-hands-on-2/37820/ and claim that it worked for them.
- DannoHung 11y agoNo mention of the testing protocol. Probably didn't even do a single blind.
- eveningcoffee 11y agoOh, yes, I should have told "reviewed it" or something similar. But according to them the effect was clearly there so it was not like finding the best sounding speakers but finding the speakers that make a sound. I think that you can find this with less rigorous testing.
- DannoHung 11y agoI disagree. Your mood is possibly the most subjective experience you can have and it is heavily affected by your own perceptions of what it should be. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for people suffering from all sorts of psychological maladies is significantly effective because we are so able to affect our own perception of reality. Therefore, they really, really need to do a rigorous experiment before we can derive anything meaningful.
- devindotcom 11y agoPlease do not take the wild claims of these advertisers seriously. Mood and energy are barely defined, let alone able to be controlled reliably by a bit of transcranial stimulation. This is a fabulously interesting field, but we should be spending millions on basic research, not Skymall level products trading on ignorance. (Yes, the two are not mutually exclusive, but the latter will hold back the former)
- bkudria 11y agoStudy: http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2015/02/20/015032 http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2015/02/20/015032 (N=82)
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