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Yup, posting under throwaway because I don't want the downvotes. Here's my take from interacting with Iranians(ones that grew up in Iran or maybe didn't go to

Yup, posting under throwaway because I don't want the downvotes. Here's my take from interacting with Iranians(ones that grew up in Iran or maybe didn't go to college in the US): they have a chip on their shoulder about western influence and a scarily misogynistic stance( note though, they are, by and large, not religious). Sure, they dress like westerner/hipsters but they still have a weird mix of superiority/inferiority complex. Am I saying Iranian people are bad/evil? No. I am saying that being brainwashed from a young age, being taught to think and act a certain way doesn't change overnight or even a generation. This generation is, if they are anything more than acting out the normal teenager rebelliousness, going to be the same as the last in all aspects that matter. And, acting like this isn't the case isn't going to make the problem go away. Also, since when is being westernized normal?

guard-of-terra 11y ago
"since when is being westernized normal" You are either western or you are "mumbo-jumbo" aboriginal wildling. There is no third way. "Westernized" is denigrating btw. What you should be is 'civilized'. We've got only one civilization worth its name today.
- throwaway_coz 11y ago
  "westernized" is supposed to be denigrating. Thats what I call people who wear hipster clothes but are still misogynistic bastards :) Being westernized means eating your big mac but acting in a backward manner. Now, being civilized is different than being westernized. Why? Because roots are important and the melting pot of globalization needs to melt more than one direction and in more facets than just cuisine :) Oh yeah, what "is the one civilization worth its name today"?
  - guard-of-terra 11y ago
    You're a very enlightened person indeed, I sincerely wonder why all the downvotes.
    - throwaway_coz 11y ago
      Sarcasm? Can't tell, but I agree. Regardless, enlightenment is not a function of downvotes or upvotes[0]. It's definitely not thinking everyone is equal/good/civilized/uncivilized/whatever: that's political correctness. [0] I bet most of the downvoters haven't interacted in any way with cultures other than their own. They've maybe met a few american-iranian kids and decided that's a close enough approximation of actual Iranians. It's not.
msoad 11y ago
I know what are you talking about. I've seen so many people who are civilized on surface but backward inside. It's easy to spot when the issue is about women rights or ethnicity discriminations. They just can't hide it. I bet a good percentage of those Iranian hipsters want to have a virgin wife!

guard-of-terra 11y ago

"since when is being westernized normal" You are either western or you are "mumbo-jumbo" aboriginal wildling. There is no third way. "Westernized" is denigrating btw. What you should be is 'civilized'. We've got only one civilization worth its name today.

throwaway_coz 11y ago
"westernized" is supposed to be denigrating. Thats what I call people who wear hipster clothes but are still misogynistic bastards :) Being westernized means eating your big mac but acting in a backward manner. Now, being civilized is different than being westernized. Why? Because roots are important and the melting pot of globalization needs to melt more than one direction and in more facets than just cuisine :) Oh yeah, what "is the one civilization worth its name today"?
- guard-of-terra 11y ago
  You're a very enlightened person indeed, I sincerely wonder why all the downvotes.
  - throwaway_coz 11y ago
    Sarcasm? Can't tell, but I agree. Regardless, enlightenment is not a function of downvotes or upvotes[0]. It's definitely not thinking everyone is equal/good/civilized/uncivilized/whatever: that's political correctness. [0] I bet most of the downvoters haven't interacted in any way with cultures other than their own. They've maybe met a few american-iranian kids and decided that's a close enough approximation of actual Iranians. It's not.

msoad 11y ago

I know what are you talking about. I've seen so many people who are civilized on surface but backward inside. It's easy to spot when the issue is about women rights or ethnicity discriminations. They just can't hide it. I bet a good percentage of those Iranian hipsters want to have a virgin wife!