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FTA: "At some point, millennials are going to grow up. They’ll start caring about stability for the sake of their families, and they’ll make decisions that like

FTA: "At some point, millennials are going to grow up. They’ll start caring about stability for the sake of their families, and they’ll make decisions that likely look more and more like that of their parents. Isn’t that the circle of life, anyway? But with every generation comes a few changes. What makes millennials look “reckless” or disloyal now might actually be the key to their success, especially because corporations are never going to be their friend, no matter the generations of change." There is some confusion here. Millenials don't dislike or disregard stability, they've learned by watching their parents and peers that job stability is not something an employer is interested in providing as part of the compensation package. The lack of loyalty is a result of being or seeing others get cut loose, not of some chaotic-neutral desire to jump around depending on the mood of the day. This isn't a matter of growing up, it's a matter of learning that loyalty earns you nothing. Then there's the adversarial and asymmetrical relationship that exists between employer and employee in the US, generally speaking. They control the flow of your life's time, your effort, your income, your healthcare, and your future job prospects in the same field. They are purely indifferent to you, because you are (relatively) easy to replace, whereas you may struggle to replace them. If they ask for more, you must acquiesce to their demands or risk being released. If you ask for more, they have the power to say either yes or no, and exercise both options as convenient.

wahsd 11y ago
That's what I find most amusing about people who don't get what's going on. Employment is a relationship, if there has been significant back-stabbing, lying, deception, deceit, fraud, abuse, exploitation, etc. then people will simply not extend trust. The trust relationship of American corporations is almost irreparably shattered and destroyed. Not least due to corporate policies, but also due to baby boomer "leadership" that exhibits very little more than incompetence and project the entitled, spoiled lives they were allowed to lead. I have my own difficulties overcoming that perception that people hold, but I see it everywhere. Unfortunately, people are also getting fooled by the sham benefits, concern, and care that the likes of the big corporate tech companies like facebook exhibit. Employees are lulled into thinking that the corporation is young and dynamic so it must "get it", but there is still a stone cold corporation behind it all that will slit the throat of your newborn if they need to. Just look at the rise of facebook, it's just the same kind of sleazy, deceptive, conniving, heinous corporation as any other; maybe even worse, considering they are complicit in the greatest threat to human liberties and freedom humanity has ever witnessed.
icanhackit 11y ago
Then there's the adversarial and asymmetrical relationship that exists between employer and employee Until you're engaged with and benefit from a system, it's an adversary of sorts. You might be an anarchist until you have children, at which point apparatus of the state (e.g. police) suddenly holds value. You might be against forms of financial leverage until you're able to take advantage of the system (i.e. you have capital to play with). On the flip side, a corporation might see young people as threatening or non-ideal until they have a need for new skill-sets, youthful energy, fresh perspectives or there's been some sort of normalization between the two entities. I think the effect is pronounced more than ever because there's a disparate rate of cultural evolution between generations, and corporations are responding to young people the way an immune system might respond to a foreign body.
mcv 11y ago
I'm 41, so not a millennial, but I do switch jobs often. I don't consider this a lack of loyalty; I am loyal, but only while I work there. No, actually I still feel loyalty towards previous employers (if they were good, which many are), but my loyalty does not mean they own my life. I've learned that the best way to get a raise is to get a new job. And I like a change of scenery and learning something new. But my father and brother have stayed with the same employer for all their lives. Having kids does not mean I stay at the same job longer. It does influence my choice in jobs, however; I'm more likely to choose something close to home, and more likely to choose higher pay over interesting technologies or cool coworkers (though those are still big factors).

wahsd 11y ago

That's what I find most amusing about people who don't get what's going on. Employment is a relationship, if there has been significant back-stabbing, lying, deception, deceit, fraud, abuse, exploitation, etc. then people will simply not extend trust. The trust relationship of American corporations is almost irreparably shattered and destroyed. Not least due to corporate policies, but also due to baby boomer "leadership" that exhibits very little more than incompetence and project the entitled, spoiled lives they were allowed to lead. I have my own difficulties overcoming that perception that people hold, but I see it everywhere. Unfortunately, people are also getting fooled by the sham benefits, concern, and care that the likes of the big corporate tech companies like facebook exhibit. Employees are lulled into thinking that the corporation is young and dynamic so it must "get it", but there is still a stone cold corporation behind it all that will slit the throat of your newborn if they need to. Just look at the rise of facebook, it's just the same kind of sleazy, deceptive, conniving, heinous corporation as any other; maybe even worse, considering they are complicit in the greatest threat to human liberties and freedom humanity has ever witnessed.

icanhackit 11y ago

Then there's the adversarial and asymmetrical relationship that exists between employer and employee Until you're engaged with and benefit from a system, it's an adversary of sorts. You might be an anarchist until you have children, at which point apparatus of the state (e.g. police) suddenly holds value. You might be against forms of financial leverage until you're able to take advantage of the system (i.e. you have capital to play with). On the flip side, a corporation might see young people as threatening or non-ideal until they have a need for new skill-sets, youthful energy, fresh perspectives or there's been some sort of normalization between the two entities. I think the effect is pronounced more than ever because there's a disparate rate of cultural evolution between generations, and corporations are responding to young people the way an immune system might respond to a foreign body.

mcv 11y ago

I'm 41, so not a millennial, but I do switch jobs often. I don't consider this a lack of loyalty; I am loyal, but only while I work there. No, actually I still feel loyalty towards previous employers (if they were good, which many are), but my loyalty does not mean they own my life. I've learned that the best way to get a raise is to get a new job. And I like a change of scenery and learning something new. But my father and brother have stayed with the same employer for all their lives. Having kids does not mean I stay at the same job longer. It does influence my choice in jobs, however; I'm more likely to choose something close to home, and more likely to choose higher pay over interesting technologies or cool coworkers (though those are still big factors).