3 ms·

I agree wholeheartedly. Glossy screens have their place, and that place is as a desktop display in an area where light is controlled so there is no glare. On a

I agree wholeheartedly. Glossy screens have their place, and that place is as a desktop display in an area where light is controlled so there is no glare. On a mobile device they are nothing but a pain. Unfortunately, I'm uncomfortable with giving Lenovo any of my money after Superfish and all the computing technology that interests me is only available with glossy screens (Microsoft's Surface tablets are particularly cool, but I still haven't been able to take the plunge).

ekianjo 11y ago
> I'm uncomfortable with giving Lenovo any of my money after Superfish That Superfish thing was never for business models of laptops. Not saying you should forgive Lenovo or anything, but it did not affect every model out there.
- joshuapants 11y ago
  Oh, I know. They just lost a lot of my trust for doing something so terrible in the first place. They may earn it back at some point, but I'm in no hurry to give them any of my money.
  - agumonkey 11y ago
    It was such a big and public mess, let's hope they'll give twice the effort to make up for it. After all, they backpedaled on the track point buttons.
userbinator 11y ago
I buy laptops for the hardware, not the crap software that always certainly comes with it. Anything preinstalled is of no significance, as long as I can wipe it out and install the software I want. Modifying the hardware is a far more difficult thing to do...
- joshuapants 11y ago
  I don't disagree, when I use Thinkpads I tend to use Linux on them, and even if I didn't I would prefer a clean install of Windows. But I absolutely refuse to reward Lenovo for engaging in shady business practices. If they were willing to let such an egregiously bad piece of software on their machines, can I trust them in the future not to include hardware keyloggers or something else difficult to eliminate? As you say, modifying hardware is very difficult. Much as I love the trackpoint, matte screen, and magnesium chassis, I can get comparable specs elsewhere.

ekianjo 11y ago

> I'm uncomfortable with giving Lenovo any of my money after Superfish That Superfish thing was never for business models of laptops. Not saying you should forgive Lenovo or anything, but it did not affect every model out there.

joshuapants 11y ago
Oh, I know. They just lost a lot of my trust for doing something so terrible in the first place. They may earn it back at some point, but I'm in no hurry to give them any of my money.
- agumonkey 11y ago
  It was such a big and public mess, let's hope they'll give twice the effort to make up for it. After all, they backpedaled on the track point buttons.

userbinator 11y ago

I buy laptops for the hardware, not the crap software that always certainly comes with it. Anything preinstalled is of no significance, as long as I can wipe it out and install the software I want. Modifying the hardware is a far more difficult thing to do...

joshuapants 11y ago
I don't disagree, when I use Thinkpads I tend to use Linux on them, and even if I didn't I would prefer a clean install of Windows. But I absolutely refuse to reward Lenovo for engaging in shady business practices. If they were willing to let such an egregiously bad piece of software on their machines, can I trust them in the future not to include hardware keyloggers or something else difficult to eliminate? As you say, modifying hardware is very difficult. Much as I love the trackpoint, matte screen, and magnesium chassis, I can get comparable specs elsewhere.