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I'm always fascinated by these simulated sounds. Is there any resource for simulating other instruments like trumpets and drums?

by cf 11y ago

gtani 11y ago
google "physical modeling" and: http://www.amazon.com/Real-Sound-Synthesis-Interactive-Applications/dp/1568811683/ http://www.amazon.com/Real-Sound-Synthesis-Interactive-Appli... _______________ there's also 3 good basic textbooks on synthesis/sound design by Rick Snoman (Dance Music Manual), Martin Russ and Brian Shepherd that have specific recipes ("detune a saw and square by 3 cents...) ___________ and if you don't have a synth, ask around for somebody that has Logic Pro X (several good synth models included) or Ableton with VST or AU's installed (you have to pay e.g. $100 for Analog unless you have Ableton Suite).
boomlinde 11y ago
A good book that provides a quite detailed overview of some physical modeling algorithms (and tons of other synthesis algorithms) is The Computer Music Tutorial by C. Roads. With regards to Karplus-Strong for example, it provided an in-depth enough explanation of the algorithm for for me to base an implementation solely on it. There is another description of a flute instrument model, using noise, filters and delay lines.
peterfirefly 11y ago
You can get a decent snare drum out of Karplus-Strong. The description begins on p.46 of their article: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.144.5585&rep=rep1&type=pdf http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.144... It is really cheap to implement -- you can use a shift-xor random bit generator to get the blend factor of ½ that they mention. The whole thing was about 10 8086 instructions, as far as I recall (it's been twenty years since I played with it). Here's a paper with more extensions to the Karplus-Strong algorithm (+ analyses thereof): http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~gary/courses/papers/Jaffe-Extensions-CMJ-1983.pdf http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~gary/courses/papers/Jaffe-Extens... Here's an anthology from 1992, which is where I learned about Karplus-Strong: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Music-Machine-Selected-Readings-Computer/dp/0262680785/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433163352&sr=8-1&keywords=the+music+machine+curtis+roads http://www.amazon.co.uk/Music-Machine-Selected-Readings-Comp...
peterfirefly 11y ago
Trumpet: http://ems.music.uiuc.edu/beaucham/papers/JAES.10.95.pdf http://ems.music.uiuc.edu/beaucham/papers/JAES.10.95.pdf (I haven't tried it out so I don't know how good it sounds.) There's also a master's (or phd?) thesis from DIKU (Datalogisk Institut ved Københavns Universitet) from 15-20 years back where a guy "rewired" sounds played on one instrument to sound like they were played on other instruments. I saw his presentation/demonstration back then, and it sounded pretty okay. It's in English and should be available somewhere on DIKU's website. Darned if I can recall the title or the author, though.

I'm always fascinated by these simulated sounds. Is there any resource for simulating other instruments like trumpets and drums?

by cf 11y ago

I'm always fascinated by these simulated sounds. Is there any resource for simulating other instruments like trumpets and drums?

gtani 11y ago

google "physical modeling" and: http://www.amazon.com/Real-Sound-Synthesis-Interactive-Applications/dp/1568811683/ http://www.amazon.com/Real-Sound-Synthesis-Interactive-Appli... _______________ there's also 3 good basic textbooks on synthesis/sound design by Rick Snoman (Dance Music Manual), Martin Russ and Brian Shepherd that have specific recipes ("detune a saw and square by 3 cents...) ___________ and if you don't have a synth, ask around for somebody that has Logic Pro X (several good synth models included) or Ableton with VST or AU's installed (you have to pay e.g. $100 for Analog unless you have Ableton Suite).

boomlinde 11y ago

A good book that provides a quite detailed overview of some physical modeling algorithms (and tons of other synthesis algorithms) is The Computer Music Tutorial by C. Roads. With regards to Karplus-Strong for example, it provided an in-depth enough explanation of the algorithm for for me to base an implementation solely on it. There is another description of a flute instrument model, using noise, filters and delay lines.

peterfirefly 11y ago

You can get a decent snare drum out of Karplus-Strong. The description begins on p.46 of their article: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.144.5585&rep=rep1&type=pdf http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.144... It is really cheap to implement -- you can use a shift-xor random bit generator to get the blend factor of ½ that they mention. The whole thing was about 10 8086 instructions, as far as I recall (it's been twenty years since I played with it). Here's a paper with more extensions to the Karplus-Strong algorithm (+ analyses thereof): http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~gary/courses/papers/Jaffe-Extensions-CMJ-1983.pdf http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~gary/courses/papers/Jaffe-Extens... Here's an anthology from 1992, which is where I learned about Karplus-Strong: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Music-Machine-Selected-Readings-Computer/dp/0262680785/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433163352&sr=8-1&keywords=the+music+machine+curtis+roads http://www.amazon.co.uk/Music-Machine-Selected-Readings-Comp...

peterfirefly 11y ago

Trumpet: http://ems.music.uiuc.edu/beaucham/papers/JAES.10.95.pdf http://ems.music.uiuc.edu/beaucham/papers/JAES.10.95.pdf (I haven't tried it out so I don't know how good it sounds.) There's also a master's (or phd?) thesis from DIKU (Datalogisk Institut ved Københavns Universitet) from 15-20 years back where a guy "rewired" sounds played on one instrument to sound like they were played on other instruments. I saw his presentation/demonstration back then, and it sounded pretty okay. It's in English and should be available somewhere on DIKU's website. Darned if I can recall the title or the author, though.