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Developed countries offer alternative life goals. This, education and entertainment provide enough reasons not to have a family. Lower birth rate is a good thin

Developed countries offer alternative life goals. This, education and entertainment provide enough reasons not to have a family. Lower birth rate is a good thing in the long term, and getting non-developed countries into developed stage will accomplish that. See Gates' yearly letters.

xienze 11y ago
> Lover birth rate is a good thing in the long term It most definitely is NOT a good thing to have a birth rate below replacement in a developed country, especially one with European-style social programs. Eventually you run out of workers to support the people who aren't doing so.
- zxyzzxxx 11y ago
  I don't know what are you quoting me, and then talking about something I never wrote. ( rhetorical q. )
  - xienze 11y ago
    Well, to be honest I thought you meant "lower" birth rate. I've never heard of the concept of "lover birth" rate before.
    - zxyzzxxx 11y ago
      Lower is what I meant, it was a typo. And that is not what I'm referring to in my parent comment, which is still valid.
- k__ 11y ago
  If you assume a developed country, you have an attractive place to live for many people from other badly developed countries. So you can simply import them.
  - xienze 11y ago
    That brings with it its own problems, as many European countries are discovering.
    - thanksgiving 11y ago
      Bring in wealthy people like the US experimented with by bringing in the Chinese.
  - return0 11y ago
    typically their qualifications are low, though
    - icebraining 11y ago
      They're certainly higher than German-born newborns. If you can afford to educate a child from birth, you can certainly afford to train adults.
      - return0 11y ago
        not true
- resonation 11y ago
  I think he means there's a difference between births arising from couples in love, as opposed to births arising either by accident or from couples bound by other arrangments forced out of motives of survival, hence the qualifier being a "lover's birth rate." As for quantifying which births are "lover's" births, and which are not, well... good luck with that.
  - xienze 11y ago
    I'm thinking typo. "Lover" birth rate doesn't really make sense in the context of the discussion.
    - resonation 11y ago
      Ha ha! Right you are, oh well...

xienze 11y ago

> Lover birth rate is a good thing in the long term It most definitely is NOT a good thing to have a birth rate below replacement in a developed country, especially one with European-style social programs. Eventually you run out of workers to support the people who aren't doing so.

zxyzzxxx 11y ago
I don't know what are you quoting me, and then talking about something I never wrote. ( rhetorical q. )
- xienze 11y ago
  Well, to be honest I thought you meant "lower" birth rate. I've never heard of the concept of "lover birth" rate before.
  - zxyzzxxx 11y ago
    Lower is what I meant, it was a typo. And that is not what I'm referring to in my parent comment, which is still valid.
k__ 11y ago
If you assume a developed country, you have an attractive place to live for many people from other badly developed countries. So you can simply import them.
- xienze 11y ago
  That brings with it its own problems, as many European countries are discovering.
  - thanksgiving 11y ago
    Bring in wealthy people like the US experimented with by bringing in the Chinese.
- return0 11y ago
  typically their qualifications are low, though
  - icebraining 11y ago
    They're certainly higher than German-born newborns. If you can afford to educate a child from birth, you can certainly afford to train adults.
    - return0 11y ago
      not true
resonation 11y ago
I think he means there's a difference between births arising from couples in love, as opposed to births arising either by accident or from couples bound by other arrangments forced out of motives of survival, hence the qualifier being a "lover's birth rate." As for quantifying which births are "lover's" births, and which are not, well... good luck with that.
- xienze 11y ago
  I'm thinking typo. "Lover" birth rate doesn't really make sense in the context of the discussion.
  - resonation 11y ago
    Ha ha! Right you are, oh well...