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Mr. Robot

98 points by doppp 11y ago

pj_mukh 11y ago
For the confused: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug4fRXGyIak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug4fRXGyIak
- lawl 11y ago
  Thanks! I had no idea what that was supposed to be. Unfortunately I can't watch the full episode though, because "this content is currently unavailable", presumably because it's a non-US IP. Not sure when they'll learn, I don't want to wait for a crappy german synchronisation that kills 90% of the jokes and I especially don't want to wait 6 month for it. Welp, torrent it is I guess. Just don't accuse me of stealing.
  - zxcvcxz 11y ago
    If torrenting is "stealing" then so is this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Mus%C3%A9e_du_louvre_mona_lisa.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Mus%C3%A9... Torrents very rarely contain "full quality" media anyway. If you're watching a film at 720p and it was filmed in 4k you're getting less than half the film.
  - CaNfind_myROOT 11y ago
    While deployed I used VPN service to access Netflix and other US IP only sites.
- digi_owl 11y ago
  Much better than a different trailer i watched where he basically walked up to a dude in a coffee shop and revealed the dude was running a server containing triple digit terabytes of child porn...
anon4 11y ago
I registered as "doyouthinkimfuckingstupid@mailinator.com".
mikegioia 11y ago
I just saw the pilot yesterday, and aside from having a really cool storyline, the tech/lingo is surprisingly accurate. I don't want to hype it too much based off 1 episode, but the whole show feels very Dexter-esque.
- mortenjorck 11y ago
  The trailer turned me off with the usual "BEEP BEEP COMPUTER THINGS ARE HAPPENING" foley work. Do they avoid that in the episode?
  - mikegioia 11y ago
    You would never know it from the trailer, but honestly aside from a short convo about Gnome/KDE it's spot on. They got tor, DDOS, networking, linux, file systems, etc all correct I couldn't believe what I was watching. I don't know if they hired good consultants, or if the TV networks are finally beginning to quit watering down the tech in their shows. On top of that, the guy they have playing the main character is a totally convincing (yet definitely dramatized) portrayal of a security engineer/hacktivist living in the Lower East Side.
    - MarcScott 11y ago
      I didn't get what the 'astu' command he used several times was for. Also as was pointed out to me by another viewer - not sure how the main character expected to hide that .dat file by chmodding it to his user id. The file was held in root's HOME folder, so anything in there should be accessible only to root anyway, and root is going to be able to see any file from any user. But I'm being a pedant and I thought it was an excellent pilot that I hope they continue. It should be compulsory viewing for the screenwriters of CSI: Cyber.
      - mijoharas 11y ago
        I have to confess that I did pause what I was watching and start googling what `astu` was, glad to see I'm not alone in that.
mmrasheed 11y ago
I found the IP addresses shown in that episode during the DDoS attack on evil corp. somewhat entertaining - 155.334.31.97, 155.264.991.875, 155.644.22.673,...... For a split second, I thought, I learned them wrong...
- digi_owl 11y ago
  Hollywood and the like early on learned to not put real phone numbers into movies etc. Putting in non-functional ip addresses are just as sensible, especially when some teen can point a DDOS at it in a second.
  - Bob-Thomas_III 11y ago
    RFC 5737 - IPv4 Address Blocks Reserved for Documentation [1] would be a good fit for use in TV series and movies. [1]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5737 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5737
masterminding 11y ago
Cool site, but I'd rather be informed on how to join the 1%, instead of being grouped with the 99% yet again.
- crimsonalucard 11y ago
  From a probability standpoint, there is more to gain for you as an individual when you improve the lives of the 99% then to find ways to join the 1%.
ackalker 11y ago
Irony isn't lost on those of us who are not USian (that's 95.5% of the world's population, last I checked), some of whom may feel compelled to take their first steps into the world of hacking (monkeying around with IP anonymizers, proxies, VPNs and all that, or going straight for the inevitable torrent) just to be able to watch that pilot episode. Way to go, dudes!
- mmrasheed 11y ago
  I am not a lawyer. But, if a program is not distributed in your part of the world officially, it's not supposed to be illegal to download from different source. After all, the company is not losing any business. So, why not torrent it?
  - c3o 11y ago
    I am not aware of such a rule in any country's copyright law. If you don't own the rights, you may not make copies. Whether it's sold locally or not – unfortunately – doesn't factor into it. (However, in some countries purely downloading may generally be legal, but that rules out torrents.)
  - rahimnathwani 11y ago
    I'm not a lawyer either, but I'm pretty sure that copyright laws don't lose their effect just because something hasn't been released (yet) in your country. If that were the case, then all pre-release bootleg copies would be legal.
    - moron4hire 11y ago
      There are copyright reciprocity agreements between specific sets of nations, but there is no universal copyright law.
      - rahimnathwani 11y ago
        Yes, that's why I referred to 'laws' (plural). Have you come across any copyright law (in any country) where copyright does not apply just because the item has not been released in that country?
poppup 11y ago
TV producers attempt to instill fear in order to hook viewers into watching it. So they are using a TV show to make money to try to climb the ladder to the 1% if they aren't already there themselves. <frauds>
- tomphoolery 11y ago
  Seems to just be a viral marketing site, but I'm still hoping there's some kind of Alternate Reality Game that we just haven't discovered yet!
- crimsonalucard 11y ago
  We're all <frauds>. The show has a realistic depiction of social anxiety but an unrealistic depiction of heroism. There's darkness in all of us.
mmmooo 11y ago
interestingly, when the psuedo 'irc' connection is created, the user's ip address looks to be intended to be the source address..but because someone forgot that there's an akamai proxy in the middle (and didn't adjust for X-Forwarded-For or whatever), the ip you actually get is the akamai ip (its also in the source) <script> var USER_IP = '23.62.236.92'; Was curious since the ip appeared real, but wasn't mine.
morb 11y ago
"I see you're running GNOME" snippet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQM5fU7V-MM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQM5fU7V-MM
- angersock 11y ago
  No openbox? Scrubs.
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- MarcScott 11y ago
  This was the only "tech" part that I found cringe-worthy. I was able to watch the rest of the show without jumping out of my seat and shouting "That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works."
  - mattstreet 11y ago
    It's kind of weird, because people I know would have opinions about KDE vs Gnome and they didn't say anything exactly wrong, but I've never heard anyone ever talk about it like that.
    - mikegioia 11y ago
      I agree, they should have done Distros, i.e. "Oh, you run Debian? I'm a SUSE guy myself". I have never once talked to anyone about the window manager nor would I comment on it.
      - morb 11y ago
        Now that would be unrealistic. You can't really guess which distro someone is using just by glancing over their screen for a second. You can tell which DE they are using but not distro, except in the case of Unity and Pantheon, those are mostly used with their respective distros. People don't usually have output of cat /etc/os-release on the screen easily visible for people passing by to see. There isn't that much visible difference between distros if you aren't working as root.
Lord_DeathMatch 11y ago
And a fun little easter egg; the undocumented "420" command.
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suprgeek 11y ago
Very cool storyline but the excessive voice-over can be a little grating. Fight club meets Hackers meets Men in Black Here is the full episode (without the hoops) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpxvvnWvffM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpxvvnWvffM
- MarcScott 11y ago
  Fight Club is spot on. If the Mr Robot doesn't turn out to be a facet of the protagonists mind, I'll be very surprised.
eljimmy 11y ago
So... did anyone else try to rm -fr /?
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black_puppydog 11y ago
I like that the kind of text used in this... marketing website (?) could easily fall under the new definitions of terror proposed by e.g. US and UK governments...
manigandham 11y ago
The anarchy stuff is tiring though. Again with the whole evil corp stuff and framing the top guy. Why? Just because the girl was removed from the meeting isn't reason enough to start attacking a company.
- jcoffland 11y ago
  I bet you are fun to watch movies with.
  - manigandham 11y ago
    Yes, I am. I also like capitalism and free enterprise and find it frustrating that the show went from somewhat qualified vigilantism of actual bad guys to a downright idiotic "free the world" scenario by taking down a corporation employing lots of innocent people because a women was bad in a meeting.
    - jcoffland 11y ago
      I doubt you really think our protagonist decided to frame the CTO of Evil Corp because his girl friend was "bad in a meeting." That was the CTO's supposed reason for getting her removed from the meeting. Our hacker was on the edge anyway and made the decision to fight Evil Corp because he saw what an a-hole the CTO really was. The Evil Corp CTO was rude, clearly sexist and thew his weight around as a way to demonstrate his dominance. These were the decision factors for this anti-social hacker. Besides, just because a corporation employs lots of people does not mean they shouldn't be punished for doing great wrong, even to the point of dissolving said company. This is a TV show anyway.
      - lolwutjk2f 11y ago
        How as he clearly sexist? The girl didn't know anything and was speaking out of her ass and wasting everybody's time.
      - manigandham 11y ago
jcoffland 11y ago
Best line from the pilot, "I'm an executive. I mean why am I even running Linux?"
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- mercer 11y ago
  It's a bit early to tell, don't you think?
networkjester 11y ago
Full pilot episode for those interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpxvvnWvffM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpxvvnWvffM
- ackalker 11y ago
  Correction: for a small minority of those potentially interested, see my previous comment. For everyone else: welcome to the world of the hacking underdogs :)
K2L8M11N2 11y ago
Mr. Robot still using init...
- k0m155ar 11y ago
  Like me, he is probably playing cautious before jumping on the systemd train. #butidontwannaupgradetorhel7!!!!
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k0m155ar 11y ago
"Current Balance 197,455.64 Last Statement Balance 196,955.64 Minimum Payment Due 500" I think they have it backwards, plus it looks like she lucked out with a zero interest loan.

Mr. Robot

98 points by doppp 11y ago

pj_mukh 11y ago

For the confused: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug4fRXGyIak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug4fRXGyIak

lawl 11y ago
Thanks! I had no idea what that was supposed to be. Unfortunately I can't watch the full episode though, because "this content is currently unavailable", presumably because it's a non-US IP. Not sure when they'll learn, I don't want to wait for a crappy german synchronisation that kills 90% of the jokes and I especially don't want to wait 6 month for it. Welp, torrent it is I guess. Just don't accuse me of stealing.
- zxcvcxz 11y ago
  If torrenting is "stealing" then so is this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Mus%C3%A9e_du_louvre_mona_lisa.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Mus%C3%A9... Torrents very rarely contain "full quality" media anyway. If you're watching a film at 720p and it was filmed in 4k you're getting less than half the film.
- CaNfind_myROOT 11y ago
  While deployed I used VPN service to access Netflix and other US IP only sites.
digi_owl 11y ago
Much better than a different trailer i watched where he basically walked up to a dude in a coffee shop and revealed the dude was running a server containing triple digit terabytes of child porn...

anon4 11y ago

I registered as "doyouthinkimfuckingstupid@mailinator.com".

mikegioia 11y ago

I just saw the pilot yesterday, and aside from having a really cool storyline, the tech/lingo is surprisingly accurate. I don't want to hype it too much based off 1 episode, but the whole show feels very Dexter-esque.

mortenjorck 11y ago
The trailer turned me off with the usual "BEEP BEEP COMPUTER THINGS ARE HAPPENING" foley work. Do they avoid that in the episode?
- mikegioia 11y ago
  You would never know it from the trailer, but honestly aside from a short convo about Gnome/KDE it's spot on. They got tor, DDOS, networking, linux, file systems, etc all correct I couldn't believe what I was watching. I don't know if they hired good consultants, or if the TV networks are finally beginning to quit watering down the tech in their shows. On top of that, the guy they have playing the main character is a totally convincing (yet definitely dramatized) portrayal of a security engineer/hacktivist living in the Lower East Side.
  - MarcScott 11y ago
    I didn't get what the 'astu' command he used several times was for. Also as was pointed out to me by another viewer - not sure how the main character expected to hide that .dat file by chmodding it to his user id. The file was held in root's HOME folder, so anything in there should be accessible only to root anyway, and root is going to be able to see any file from any user. But I'm being a pedant and I thought it was an excellent pilot that I hope they continue. It should be compulsory viewing for the screenwriters of CSI: Cyber.
    - mijoharas 11y ago
      I have to confess that I did pause what I was watching and start googling what `astu` was, glad to see I'm not alone in that.

mmrasheed 11y ago

I found the IP addresses shown in that episode during the DDoS attack on evil corp. somewhat entertaining - 155.334.31.97, 155.264.991.875, 155.644.22.673,...... For a split second, I thought, I learned them wrong...

digi_owl 11y ago
Hollywood and the like early on learned to not put real phone numbers into movies etc. Putting in non-functional ip addresses are just as sensible, especially when some teen can point a DDOS at it in a second.
- Bob-Thomas_III 11y ago
  RFC 5737 - IPv4 Address Blocks Reserved for Documentation [1] would be a good fit for use in TV series and movies. [1]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5737 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5737

masterminding 11y ago

Cool site, but I'd rather be informed on how to join the 1%, instead of being grouped with the 99% yet again.

crimsonalucard 11y ago
From a probability standpoint, there is more to gain for you as an individual when you improve the lives of the 99% then to find ways to join the 1%.

ackalker 11y ago

Irony isn't lost on those of us who are not USian (that's 95.5% of the world's population, last I checked), some of whom may feel compelled to take their first steps into the world of hacking (monkeying around with IP anonymizers, proxies, VPNs and all that, or going straight for the inevitable torrent) just to be able to watch that pilot episode. Way to go, dudes!

mmrasheed 11y ago
I am not a lawyer. But, if a program is not distributed in your part of the world officially, it's not supposed to be illegal to download from different source. After all, the company is not losing any business. So, why not torrent it?
- c3o 11y ago
  I am not aware of such a rule in any country's copyright law. If you don't own the rights, you may not make copies. Whether it's sold locally or not – unfortunately – doesn't factor into it. (However, in some countries purely downloading may generally be legal, but that rules out torrents.)
- rahimnathwani 11y ago
  I'm not a lawyer either, but I'm pretty sure that copyright laws don't lose their effect just because something hasn't been released (yet) in your country. If that were the case, then all pre-release bootleg copies would be legal.
  - moron4hire 11y ago
    There are copyright reciprocity agreements between specific sets of nations, but there is no universal copyright law.
    - rahimnathwani 11y ago
      Yes, that's why I referred to 'laws' (plural). Have you come across any copyright law (in any country) where copyright does not apply just because the item has not been released in that country?

poppup 11y ago

TV producers attempt to instill fear in order to hook viewers into watching it. So they are using a TV show to make money to try to climb the ladder to the 1% if they aren't already there themselves. <frauds>

tomphoolery 11y ago
Seems to just be a viral marketing site, but I'm still hoping there's some kind of Alternate Reality Game that we just haven't discovered yet!
crimsonalucard 11y ago
We're all <frauds>. The show has a realistic depiction of social anxiety but an unrealistic depiction of heroism. There's darkness in all of us.

mmmooo 11y ago

interestingly, when the psuedo 'irc' connection is created, the user's ip address looks to be intended to be the source address..but because someone forgot that there's an akamai proxy in the middle (and didn't adjust for X-Forwarded-For or whatever), the ip you actually get is the akamai ip (its also in the source) <script> var USER_IP = '23.62.236.92'; Was curious since the ip appeared real, but wasn't mine.

morb 11y ago

"I see you're running GNOME" snippet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQM5fU7V-MM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQM5fU7V-MM

angersock 11y ago
No openbox? Scrubs.
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MarcScott 11y ago
This was the only "tech" part that I found cringe-worthy. I was able to watch the rest of the show without jumping out of my seat and shouting "That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works."
- mattstreet 11y ago
  It's kind of weird, because people I know would have opinions about KDE vs Gnome and they didn't say anything exactly wrong, but I've never heard anyone ever talk about it like that.
  - mikegioia 11y ago
    I agree, they should have done Distros, i.e. "Oh, you run Debian? I'm a SUSE guy myself". I have never once talked to anyone about the window manager nor would I comment on it.
    - morb 11y ago
      Now that would be unrealistic. You can't really guess which distro someone is using just by glancing over their screen for a second. You can tell which DE they are using but not distro, except in the case of Unity and Pantheon, those are mostly used with their respective distros. People don't usually have output of cat /etc/os-release on the screen easily visible for people passing by to see. There isn't that much visible difference between distros if you aren't working as root.

Lord_DeathMatch 11y ago

And a fun little easter egg; the undocumented "420" command.

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suprgeek 11y ago

Very cool storyline but the excessive voice-over can be a little grating. Fight club meets Hackers meets Men in Black Here is the full episode (without the hoops) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpxvvnWvffM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpxvvnWvffM

MarcScott 11y ago
Fight Club is spot on. If the Mr Robot doesn't turn out to be a facet of the protagonists mind, I'll be very surprised.

eljimmy 11y ago

So... did anyone else try to rm -fr /?

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black_puppydog 11y ago

I like that the kind of text used in this... marketing website (?) could easily fall under the new definitions of terror proposed by e.g. US and UK governments...

manigandham 11y ago

The anarchy stuff is tiring though. Again with the whole evil corp stuff and framing the top guy. Why? Just because the girl was removed from the meeting isn't reason enough to start attacking a company.

jcoffland 11y ago
I bet you are fun to watch movies with.
- manigandham 11y ago
  Yes, I am. I also like capitalism and free enterprise and find it frustrating that the show went from somewhat qualified vigilantism of actual bad guys to a downright idiotic "free the world" scenario by taking down a corporation employing lots of innocent people because a women was bad in a meeting.
  - jcoffland 11y ago
    I doubt you really think our protagonist decided to frame the CTO of Evil Corp because his girl friend was "bad in a meeting." That was the CTO's supposed reason for getting her removed from the meeting. Our hacker was on the edge anyway and made the decision to fight Evil Corp because he saw what an a-hole the CTO really was. The Evil Corp CTO was rude, clearly sexist and thew his weight around as a way to demonstrate his dominance. These were the decision factors for this anti-social hacker. Besides, just because a corporation employs lots of people does not mean they shouldn't be punished for doing great wrong, even to the point of dissolving said company. This is a TV show anyway.
    - lolwutjk2f 11y ago
      How as he clearly sexist? The girl didn't know anything and was speaking out of her ass and wasting everybody's time.
    - manigandham 11y ago

jcoffland 11y ago

Best line from the pilot, "I'm an executive. I mean why am I even running Linux?"

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mercer 11y ago
It's a bit early to tell, don't you think?

networkjester 11y ago

Full pilot episode for those interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpxvvnWvffM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpxvvnWvffM

ackalker 11y ago
Correction: for a small minority of those potentially interested, see my previous comment. For everyone else: welcome to the world of the hacking underdogs :)

K2L8M11N2 11y ago

Mr. Robot still using init...

k0m155ar 11y ago
Like me, he is probably playing cautious before jumping on the systemd train. #butidontwannaupgradetorhel7!!!!

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k0m155ar 11y ago

"Current Balance 197,455.64 Last Statement Balance 196,955.64 Minimum Payment Due 500" I think they have it backwards, plus it looks like she lucked out with a zero interest loan.