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In France, there's a high chance of trial if you lay someone off... A 25% chance! (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licenciement_en_France#Statistiques http://fr.w

In France, there's a high chance of trial if you lay someone off... A 25% chance! (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licenciement_en_France#Statistiques http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licenciement_en_France#Statisti...) From what I've found on the Net, the laid off decided to take their case to court, to ask for greater compensation from Mandriva. (no authoritative source found, only excerpts from an interviews on http://linuxfr.org/users/kurun/journaux/duval-vs-mandriva-inerview-de-f-bancilhon http://linuxfr.org/users/kurun/journaux/duval-vs-mandriva-in...)

adekok 11y ago
I worked in France for a number of years. One case I saw personally was a sales guy who didn't sell. He went on "trips" every week for 4 days to visit his girlfriend. Then, expensed meals for both of them. After 4 months of this, he was fired for cause. And sued. And won. Some things in France are nice (pate de foie gras at the French senate). Employment law isn't one of them.
- Ved_ 11y ago
  That's very cliché (no pun intended). I've seen companies in France firing employees simply for making too many typos. Employee sued and company won.
  - tajen 11y ago
    That's probably incomplete. They were probably on probation, the initial 3-to-8 month period where the permanent employment contract can be revoked without a reason (except if discrimination can be demonstated, once again).
  - cm2187 11y ago
    That's fiction. Even in cases of manifest faults employees sue and win. I am certain you can't fire someone for a typo in France. There was an amusing anecdote. A guy working for EDF I think. Except that he was never showing up and instead was working as a waiter in the family restaurant. EDF sent someone to the restaurant to check that he was there instead of at work, and he was, and decided to fire him. The lay-off was cancelled in court on the basis that an employee has to receive a notice in advance of a control! The French labour system has been modelled after Kafka.
- weddpros 11y ago
  Sorry you had such an experience with France. I've left the country too (I'm french).

adekok 11y ago

I worked in France for a number of years. One case I saw personally was a sales guy who didn't sell. He went on "trips" every week for 4 days to visit his girlfriend. Then, expensed meals for both of them. After 4 months of this, he was fired for cause. And sued. And won. Some things in France are nice (pate de foie gras at the French senate). Employment law isn't one of them.

Ved_ 11y ago
That's very cliché (no pun intended). I've seen companies in France firing employees simply for making too many typos. Employee sued and company won.
- tajen 11y ago
  That's probably incomplete. They were probably on probation, the initial 3-to-8 month period where the permanent employment contract can be revoked without a reason (except if discrimination can be demonstated, once again).
- cm2187 11y ago
  That's fiction. Even in cases of manifest faults employees sue and win. I am certain you can't fire someone for a typo in France. There was an amusing anecdote. A guy working for EDF I think. Except that he was never showing up and instead was working as a waiter in the family restaurant. EDF sent someone to the restaurant to check that he was there instead of at work, and he was, and decided to fire him. The lay-off was cancelled in court on the basis that an employee has to receive a notice in advance of a control! The French labour system has been modelled after Kafka.
weddpros 11y ago
Sorry you had such an experience with France. I've left the country too (I'm french).