>You are actually paying for the pensions of current retirees. Yes, everyone understands that. But it incurs a debt I will expect to be repaid. >By definitio

>You are actually paying for the pensions of current retirees. Yes, everyone understands that. But it incurs a debt I will expect to be repaid. >By definition retirees are people who could still be working but choose not to. Absolutely. If they paid into the pension system they should be getting a pension. If not they need to rely on their savings. >How about the disabled and the infirm? Those between jobs? You're changing the question a bit here. We were talking about people who can work but don't. >The real issue you seem to have is the "I paid for it" part. I don't see why you think this is an issue. The money comes out of my paycheck. It's money that I could certainly have saved or used for some other purpose. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to provide for themselves and their families. And I don't mind helping people who can't do so for reasons beyond their control. But I have no interest in supporting people who don't want to work. I don't want to work either, but I drag my ass out of bed every morning, and I don't appreciate other people helping themselves to the fruits of my labor.