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I know I have an unpopular opinion, but I'm glad Clayton Lockett had a gruesome execution. He eventually died of a heart attack. He was convicted of rape, sodom
by viggity 11y ago
I know I have an unpopular opinion, but I'm glad Clayton Lockett had a gruesome execution. He eventually died of a heart attack. He was convicted of rape, sodomy, kidnapping and murder. HE BURIED A 19 YEAR OLD GIRL ALIVE. Fuck him. I hope it hurt. I hope he was scared. I hope he is rotting in hell.
Every one of these god damn articles on the death penalty, THEY NEVER SPEND ANY FUCKING TIME TALKING ABOUT THE VICTIMS. They have a fancy chart for how 15,000 murders were executed. Do they have a fancy chart to count the victims? Do they have a fancy chart to show how many of the victims were raped before they were murdered? Do they have a chart to show how many victims cried out for their mother while being tortured? No, because you can't undermine the death penalty unless you turn the victims into faceless abstractions.
The last time Bill Richard saw his son alive was right after the boston marathon bombing. The bomb exploded and 8 year old Martin Richard was still alive but gravely wounded. Bill had to leave his EIGHT YEAR OLD SON TO DIE ALONE so he could rush his seriously wounded daughter to the hospital. Bill may have advocated against the death penalty for Tsarnaev, but no parent who has experienced that should be denied witnessing Tsarnaev's death if they so chose. It isn't about revenge, it is about justice.
- mikeash 11y agoExecuting a criminal does nothing for their victims. That's why the victims aren't usually mentioned. Personally, I oppose the death penalty on practical grounds. It costs more than life in prison, it eliminates the possibility of reversing a false conviction, and it has no real advantage, so why do it?
- viggity 11y agoputting them in prison doesn't do anything for the victim, maybe we should just let them go free, amirite? it is about justice. not vengeance. not revenge. justice. if you burn my house to the ground, you go to prison, I sue you and take your property. that is just. if you intentionally and with malice kidnap, rape, beat, shoot and then bury alive a 19 year old girl (like Clayton Lockett did). then you don't get to breathe the same air as the rest of us. you don't get to go outside, you don't get your prison tv. you get a needle and an unmarked grave. it is what is fair.
- mikeash 11y agoWhat's the difference between vengeance and justice, in your view?
- wlievens 11y agoFor those who are beyond help, nothing? For the loved ones of the victims, it could provide a sliver of comfort, and that is priceless compared to taking away the freedom of someone who has no right to it.
- mistermann 11y agoI 100% agree with you. However, think about the cases where the person is not guilty, and they are railroaded (for whatever reason, I won't pretend to understand) into either a guilty plea or just a conviction, with not only no supporting evidence, but plentiful evidence that refutes the charge. The "justice" system in the US and many other countries isn't even trying to be "right", they are just processing through people. If they were truly concerned about justice, we wouldn't have stories of people who can't afford lawyers sitting on death row for crimes there's no evidence they committed. It is just another example of theater.
- csomar 11y agoI don't see how killing to the killer do justice to the victim. (or his family).
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