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The one thing I'm not clear on is why she didn't consult with a lawyer to begin with. They might have said to her that a lawyer couldn't be present, but I think

The one thing I'm not clear on is why she didn't consult with a lawyer to begin with. They might have said to her that a lawyer couldn't be present, but I think that might have changed if she'd talked to one anyway.

awakeasleep 11y ago
Lawyers, particularly specialized lawyers with a good reputation, tend to cost a lot of money. The author is a professor. The question becomes, why didn't the author find good, pro-bono legal counsel willing to fight against students in a title IX case.
- venomsnake 11y ago
  And that is why we have the popehat signal. Ken and his cohort would have jumped on that like crazy.
  - hoopd 11y ago
    And that's the problem of being a moderate leftist trying to defend yourself against radical leftists, unless you can get the ACLU to pick up your case you have to turn to outside groups like the far right, who you don't understand, for help. This would be a risky case for a leftist lawyer to take pro bono because they may face a severe political backlash for it.
    - venomsnake 11y ago
      I would not call Ken White far right (or right) at all. He is very sane and strong defender of the first amendment. Of course the fight of the (self perceived) marginalized groups to try and dismantle the first is more than ironic and amusing.
      - hoopd 11y ago
        To a moderate leftist in a fight with radical leftists, libertarians are "far right" which roughly translates to non-mainstream right. The point is the policing powers of the radical left are such that when a member of the moderate left is chosen for public castigation their peers don't want to get involved. Like the author said, she's getting a lot of silent support from people who aren't daring to go public with their support. The reason libertarians are happy to get involved publicly is they're far outside the political left so the radical left holds very little power over them. A moderate leftist reaching out to Ken White for help would be like a centrist republican contacting the ACLU, that's a lot of trust to place in people that you normally disagree with. edit: Not sure why I'm getting downvoted here, just trying to explain why it might be difficult for the author to find pro-bono legal help from within her existing social network.
dpifke 11y ago
I concur. If you're ever in a dispute with your employer and they tell you you're not allowed to hire a lawyer, you should probably hire a lawyer.
- rhpistole 11y ago
  I would go so far as to say that if you're in a dispute with anyone and they tell you you're not allowed to have a lawyer present, you damn well better have a lawyer present.

awakeasleep 11y ago

Lawyers, particularly specialized lawyers with a good reputation, tend to cost a lot of money. The author is a professor. The question becomes, why didn't the author find good, pro-bono legal counsel willing to fight against students in a title IX case.

venomsnake 11y ago
And that is why we have the popehat signal. Ken and his cohort would have jumped on that like crazy.
- hoopd 11y ago
  And that's the problem of being a moderate leftist trying to defend yourself against radical leftists, unless you can get the ACLU to pick up your case you have to turn to outside groups like the far right, who you don't understand, for help. This would be a risky case for a leftist lawyer to take pro bono because they may face a severe political backlash for it.
  - venomsnake 11y ago
    I would not call Ken White far right (or right) at all. He is very sane and strong defender of the first amendment. Of course the fight of the (self perceived) marginalized groups to try and dismantle the first is more than ironic and amusing.
    - hoopd 11y ago
      To a moderate leftist in a fight with radical leftists, libertarians are "far right" which roughly translates to non-mainstream right. The point is the policing powers of the radical left are such that when a member of the moderate left is chosen for public castigation their peers don't want to get involved. Like the author said, she's getting a lot of silent support from people who aren't daring to go public with their support. The reason libertarians are happy to get involved publicly is they're far outside the political left so the radical left holds very little power over them. A moderate leftist reaching out to Ken White for help would be like a centrist republican contacting the ACLU, that's a lot of trust to place in people that you normally disagree with. edit: Not sure why I'm getting downvoted here, just trying to explain why it might be difficult for the author to find pro-bono legal help from within her existing social network.

dpifke 11y ago

I concur. If you're ever in a dispute with your employer and they tell you you're not allowed to hire a lawyer, you should probably hire a lawyer.

rhpistole 11y ago
I would go so far as to say that if you're in a dispute with anyone and they tell you you're not allowed to have a lawyer present, you damn well better have a lawyer present.