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This is good advice, but also a bit cold-blooded - can money compensate for anything? I know for me it can't.

ryall 11y ago
Compensation is not really the point. Anything that'll affect the bottom line will make a business seriously consider what you have to say.
drawkbox 11y ago
It can't always, but like I mentioned, if it is too much you can move on, but never leave them high and dry. Money always at least temporarily helps and I happen to be a guy that likes to help see things to their agreed on goals even in some cases where I missed out on better projects or it has cost me. More money can get you through to that next, nicer time to move on. Typically freelance/outsourced projects don't last years, more like quarters. Sometimes it is not worth it 100%, but as a professional I typically finish the round I am on. Then the great side of being a freelancer is you can make yourself unavailable for future phases if it actually harming your business and or is an un-winnable battle. There is always some amount of battle in work though. In the end it is money, I have had lots of great clients and fun projects that have lost me money over the time I have put in, or over other project opportunities, to see things through with current projects. I typically move on from ones that do that unless it benefits me in other ways. I do projects to help fund my own projects, so sometimes work is just work to fund that and make that happen.
click170 11y ago
I once thought like that, until an accountant friend shared his point of view on the matter. That project you don't want to do, what amount of money would it take for you to accept that project? I'm not talking about what you think is a reasonable amount based on the work involved, put those thoughts aside. How much money would it take for you to actually be happy accepting that task? An extra 150K$? 500K$? 1M$? Because that's what you tell them your price is. They can shop around and go elsewhere if they choose, but don't immediately respond with a flat refusal, because this is an opportunity for a win-win.

ryall 11y ago

Compensation is not really the point. Anything that'll affect the bottom line will make a business seriously consider what you have to say.

drawkbox 11y ago

It can't always, but like I mentioned, if it is too much you can move on, but never leave them high and dry. Money always at least temporarily helps and I happen to be a guy that likes to help see things to their agreed on goals even in some cases where I missed out on better projects or it has cost me. More money can get you through to that next, nicer time to move on. Typically freelance/outsourced projects don't last years, more like quarters. Sometimes it is not worth it 100%, but as a professional I typically finish the round I am on. Then the great side of being a freelancer is you can make yourself unavailable for future phases if it actually harming your business and or is an un-winnable battle. There is always some amount of battle in work though. In the end it is money, I have had lots of great clients and fun projects that have lost me money over the time I have put in, or over other project opportunities, to see things through with current projects. I typically move on from ones that do that unless it benefits me in other ways. I do projects to help fund my own projects, so sometimes work is just work to fund that and make that happen.

click170 11y ago

I once thought like that, until an accountant friend shared his point of view on the matter. That project you don't want to do, what amount of money would it take for you to accept that project? I'm not talking about what you think is a reasonable amount based on the work involved, put those thoughts aside. How much money would it take for you to actually be happy accepting that task? An extra 150K$? 500K$? 1M$? Because that's what you tell them your price is. They can shop around and go elsewhere if they choose, but don't immediately respond with a flat refusal, because this is an opportunity for a win-win.