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I'm not sure I agree, it seems like more the absence of any thought is replaced by an unpleasant thought. It's not as if our subconscious is constantly churning

I'm not sure I agree, it seems like more the absence of any thought is replaced by an unpleasant thought. It's not as if our subconscious is constantly churning unbeknownst to us over how the meat that we are eating is non horse meat.

MacsHeadroom 11y ago
>It's not as if our subconscious is constantly churning unbeknownst to us over how the meat that we are eating is non horse meat. Actually, that is exactly what your subconscious does. You are literally thinking vocal thoughts to yourself constantly. You could be having a conversation at the dinner table while your subconscious mind vocally (internally) remarks about the colour of someone's tie and the taste of the meat you're eating all at the same time. You don't usually hear these thoughts or realize that you're thinking them. Through meditation anyone can come to hear the actual vocal versions of these subconscious streams of thought. Psychotropic drugs can help too.
- bweitzman 11y ago
  > You don't usually hear these thoughts or realize that you're thinking them. So we can't sense them, but they exist? Seems questionable to me. > Through meditation anyone can come to hear the actual vocal versions of these subconscious streams of thought. Isn't it possible that meditation isn't "unlocking" our subconscious but rather just changing the process by which we think consciously? A thought is something that is brought about by thinking, and thinking is something that is done consciously. A subconscious thought is a contradiction.
  - MacsHeadroom 11y ago
    >thinking is something that is done consciously. A subconscious thought is a contradiction. That is a ridiculous assertion. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=%22subconscious+thought%22 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=%22subconscious+t...

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I'm not sure I agree, it seems like more the absence of any thought is replaced by an unpleasant thought. It's not as if our subconscious is constantly churning

by bweitzman 11y ago

MacsHeadroom 11y ago
>It's not as if our subconscious is constantly churning unbeknownst to us over how the meat that we are eating is non horse meat. Actually, that is exactly what your subconscious does. You are literally thinking vocal thoughts to yourself constantly. You could be having a conversation at the dinner table while your subconscious mind vocally (internally) remarks about the colour of someone's tie and the taste of the meat you're eating all at the same time. You don't usually hear these thoughts or realize that you're thinking them. Through meditation anyone can come to hear the actual vocal versions of these subconscious streams of thought. Psychotropic drugs can help too.
- bweitzman 11y ago
  > You don't usually hear these thoughts or realize that you're thinking them. So we can't sense them, but they exist? Seems questionable to me. > Through meditation anyone can come to hear the actual vocal versions of these subconscious streams of thought. Isn't it possible that meditation isn't "unlocking" our subconscious but rather just changing the process by which we think consciously? A thought is something that is brought about by thinking, and thinking is something that is done consciously. A subconscious thought is a contradiction.
  - MacsHeadroom 11y ago
    >thinking is something that is done consciously. A subconscious thought is a contradiction. That is a ridiculous assertion. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=%22subconscious+thought%22 https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=%22subconscious+t...