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Android Pay is coming

150 points by gwintrob 11y ago

joshmn 11y ago
I've found myself more interested in Stripe's UI/UX than the product itself. Not that the product isn't anything less than mint, it's just that their front-end developers are so amazing.
- gwintrob 11y ago
  The form highlight animation is sexy!
  - dmbass 11y ago
    It's from Google's Polymer project https://www.polymer-project.org/1.0/ https://www.polymer-project.org/1.0/
  - traek 11y ago
    That's the ripple animation from Material Design[1]--it looks good on an product page for Android. [1]: http://www.google.com/design/spec/animation/responsive-interaction.html http://www.google.com/design/spec/animation/responsive-inter...
- Eclyps 11y ago
  And I'm SO thankful for this. It really makes selling a client on the service much easier, since many of them seem to only care about fancy spash pages...
- brettfarrow 11y ago
  I've noticed that on their last few announcements. Their landing pages for announcements have been top notch.
- soggypenny 11y ago
  Yes, it's beautiful. However, looks like there's no form validation on the email submit. I just submitted "r" as an email address.
  - ceejayoz 11y ago
    Not sure why you're getting downvotes, for such a slick page basic email address form validation is an odd omission.
  - nine_k 11y ago
    As long as you can receive a confirmation email, any address could work :) But basic \S+@\S+ check on the UI side won't hurt and would be courteous.
    - nightpool 11y ago
      But what if I worked at stripe and only wanted to type my username? :D
      - hackmiester 11y ago
        On this form it's less relevant, but that's very handy a lot of the time. I get frustrated when some outsourced app seems to believe that just sending mail to my username would not work, and refuses to let me do it.
  - bliti 11y ago
    Strange, its still working as you mentioned earlier. What a weird bug to leave out in the open like that.
- Kiro 11y ago
  I agree. How do you learn to become such a great front-end developer?
VOYD 11y ago
No thanks.
wahsd 11y ago
Wait. Again? Re-Relaunch of Google Wallet?
- deleted 11y ago
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- Yeezy20 11y ago
  No, it's more like a sdk. Wallet is it's own app that uses pay. So you can integrate pay into things using nfc more easily. I am not sure on how apple pay works as a sdk.
  - objclxt 11y ago
    On Android the Google Wallet app is being replaced by Android Pay, so it is more of a re-brand.
    - digi_owl 11y ago
      Seem like a mix of things. Yep, the app is rebranded. But they are also now partnering with banks etc rather than sitting as some generic middle man. Basically they seem to have copied Apple in this regard, and bent to the demands of the banks.
- jamoes 11y ago
  And Google Wallet was just a re-launch of Google Checkout. I guess it's worth the risk of continual failure, because if they eventually do get a foot in the door it's incredibly lucrative. Taking a percentage of every payment someone makes is a pretty good incentive.
  - izacus 11y ago
    Or maybe allowing Android users the same capabilities like Apple Pay has just makes sense?
  - wahsd 11y ago
    What's kind of laughable is that if Google hadn't been its half-baked self. They could have locked down electronic mobile payment, what, almost a decade ago now?
nly 11y ago
I'm curious how Android Pay works on the retail side. Does it use a traditional VISA payment terminal system or are Google running some sort of server-side payment hub? I'm assuming, for instance, we won't see Android Pay integration in to Bitcoin apps any time soon.
- zrail 11y ago
  Based just on Google's blog post, this seems like another implementation of the standard that Apple helped create and push through with the banks and card networks for Apple Pay. They mention tokenization and virtual card numbers, which is exactly how Apple Pay works.
  - soylentcola 11y ago
    And Google Wallet did before it.
    - mattkrea 11y ago
      Google Wallet did not use tokenization. See here: http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/05/android-pay-will-embrace-tokenization-mostly-replace-google-wallet/ http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/05/android-pay-will-emb...
      - dmayle 11y ago
        solyentcola is actually correct. Google Wallet 1.0 used tokenization, but it was issuer side, not network side. When the networks weren't interested in tokenization, Google Wallet relaunched with HCE.
        mattkrea 11y ago
        Do you have a source for this? I work in the payments industry and have lately been trying to follow things closely but this I must have missed.
        11y ago
stripeless 11y ago
Does this version have the arbitary "we hold you funds a-la paypal style-e"? functionality you have started to roll out to standard stripey?
deleted 11y ago
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- M4v3R 11y ago
  > I was like yep thats it Until he wants to convert that to fiat. Or to buy Bitcoin in the first place, while not in US. I'm a huge fan of Bitcoin, but the ecosystem, especially outside US, is still very immature. It can take days before an exchange verifies you, recognizes your fiat deposit, and processes your withdrawals. Learned that the hard way (it took igot.com 17 days to process my Bitcoin withdrawal).
- untog 11y ago
  You can do exactly what you just outlined using Venmo (in the US). Or any number of other solutions worldwide. With the added benefit that you're transferring currency which you can easily put in your bank account and spend absolutely anywhere you want. Bitcoin is great, but let's not pretend it is ready to be the go-to money transfer solution for everyone.
Bud 11y ago
Read: Android Pay is being re-marketed until we find a way that we think might catch on. This time.
tonyhb 11y ago
You should be able to do this without stripe in a few lines of code. HTML5 has `requestAutocomplete` which, on Chrome, can load Google Wallet, fill out the payment form using a proxy card, and submit the information. http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/forms/requestautocomplete/ http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/forms/requestautocomp... It's not a complete solution (because it's only on chrome), but it's pretty cool and built in.
- aliakhtar 11y ago
  That API is awesome, and works for more than just payment info. Can't wait until its universally accepted.
PakG1 11y ago
Stripe is going to make boatloads of money. They're now going to be powering both Apple Pay and Android Pay? Wow. Let me get some stock on that sucker when they go public.
estefan 11y ago
Is stripe popular because it's cheaper than paypal and also doesn't have an API & payment flow that looks like a train wreck?
- thesimon 11y ago
  Probably not cheaper for larger customers, but the easy API & payment flow are for sure part of the success.
- Kiro 11y ago
  Can you even use PayPal for accepting credit cards without redirecting the user to PayPal?

150 points by gwintrob 11y ago

I've found myself more interested in Stripe's UI/UX than the product itself. Not that the product isn't anything less than mint, it's just that their front-end developers are so amazing.

gwintrob 11y ago
The form highlight animation is sexy!
- dmbass 11y ago
  It's from Google's Polymer project https://www.polymer-project.org/1.0/ https://www.polymer-project.org/1.0/
- traek 11y ago
  That's the ripple animation from Material Design[1]--it looks good on an product page for Android. [1]: http://www.google.com/design/spec/animation/responsive-interaction.html http://www.google.com/design/spec/animation/responsive-inter...
Eclyps 11y ago
And I'm SO thankful for this. It really makes selling a client on the service much easier, since many of them seem to only care about fancy spash pages...
brettfarrow 11y ago
I've noticed that on their last few announcements. Their landing pages for announcements have been top notch.
soggypenny 11y ago
Yes, it's beautiful. However, looks like there's no form validation on the email submit. I just submitted "r" as an email address.
- ceejayoz 11y ago
  Not sure why you're getting downvotes, for such a slick page basic email address form validation is an odd omission.
- nine_k 11y ago
  As long as you can receive a confirmation email, any address could work :) But basic \S+@\S+ check on the UI side won't hurt and would be courteous.
  - nightpool 11y ago
    But what if I worked at stripe and only wanted to type my username? :D
    - hackmiester 11y ago
      On this form it's less relevant, but that's very handy a lot of the time. I get frustrated when some outsourced app seems to believe that just sending mail to my username would not work, and refuses to let me do it.
- bliti 11y ago
  Strange, its still working as you mentioned earlier. What a weird bug to leave out in the open like that.
Kiro 11y ago
I agree. How do you learn to become such a great front-end developer?

VOYD 11y ago

No thanks.

wahsd 11y ago

Wait. Again? Re-Relaunch of Google Wallet?

deleted 11y ago
[deleted]
Yeezy20 11y ago
No, it's more like a sdk. Wallet is it's own app that uses pay. So you can integrate pay into things using nfc more easily. I am not sure on how apple pay works as a sdk.
- objclxt 11y ago
  On Android the Google Wallet app is being replaced by Android Pay, so it is more of a re-brand.
  - digi_owl 11y ago
    Seem like a mix of things. Yep, the app is rebranded. But they are also now partnering with banks etc rather than sitting as some generic middle man. Basically they seem to have copied Apple in this regard, and bent to the demands of the banks.
jamoes 11y ago
And Google Wallet was just a re-launch of Google Checkout. I guess it's worth the risk of continual failure, because if they eventually do get a foot in the door it's incredibly lucrative. Taking a percentage of every payment someone makes is a pretty good incentive.
- izacus 11y ago
  Or maybe allowing Android users the same capabilities like Apple Pay has just makes sense?
- wahsd 11y ago
  What's kind of laughable is that if Google hadn't been its half-baked self. They could have locked down electronic mobile payment, what, almost a decade ago now?

nly 11y ago

I'm curious how Android Pay works on the retail side. Does it use a traditional VISA payment terminal system or are Google running some sort of server-side payment hub? I'm assuming, for instance, we won't see Android Pay integration in to Bitcoin apps any time soon.

zrail 11y ago
Based just on Google's blog post, this seems like another implementation of the standard that Apple helped create and push through with the banks and card networks for Apple Pay. They mention tokenization and virtual card numbers, which is exactly how Apple Pay works.
- soylentcola 11y ago
  And Google Wallet did before it.
  - mattkrea 11y ago
    Google Wallet did not use tokenization. See here: http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/05/android-pay-will-embrace-tokenization-mostly-replace-google-wallet/ http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/05/android-pay-will-emb...
    - dmayle 11y ago
      solyentcola is actually correct. Google Wallet 1.0 used tokenization, but it was issuer side, not network side. When the networks weren't interested in tokenization, Google Wallet relaunched with HCE.
      - mattkrea 11y ago
        Do you have a source for this? I work in the payments industry and have lately been trying to follow things closely but this I must have missed.
      - 11y ago

stripeless 11y ago

Does this version have the arbitary "we hold you funds a-la paypal style-e"? functionality you have started to roll out to standard stripey?

deleted 11y ago

[deleted]

M4v3R 11y ago
> I was like yep thats it Until he wants to convert that to fiat. Or to buy Bitcoin in the first place, while not in US. I'm a huge fan of Bitcoin, but the ecosystem, especially outside US, is still very immature. It can take days before an exchange verifies you, recognizes your fiat deposit, and processes your withdrawals. Learned that the hard way (it took igot.com 17 days to process my Bitcoin withdrawal).
untog 11y ago
You can do exactly what you just outlined using Venmo (in the US). Or any number of other solutions worldwide. With the added benefit that you're transferring currency which you can easily put in your bank account and spend absolutely anywhere you want. Bitcoin is great, but let's not pretend it is ready to be the go-to money transfer solution for everyone.

Bud 11y ago

Read: Android Pay is being re-marketed until we find a way that we think might catch on. This time.

tonyhb 11y ago

You should be able to do this without stripe in a few lines of code. HTML5 has `requestAutocomplete` which, on Chrome, can load Google Wallet, fill out the payment form using a proxy card, and submit the information. http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/forms/requestautocomplete/ http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/forms/requestautocomp... It's not a complete solution (because it's only on chrome), but it's pretty cool and built in.

aliakhtar 11y ago
That API is awesome, and works for more than just payment info. Can't wait until its universally accepted.

PakG1 11y ago

Stripe is going to make boatloads of money. They're now going to be powering both Apple Pay and Android Pay? Wow. Let me get some stock on that sucker when they go public.

estefan 11y ago

Is stripe popular because it's cheaper than paypal and also doesn't have an API & payment flow that looks like a train wreck?

thesimon 11y ago
Probably not cheaper for larger customers, but the easy API & payment flow are for sure part of the success.
Kiro 11y ago
Can you even use PayPal for accepting credit cards without redirecting the user to PayPal?