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So, this is a reminder (and a very harsh one) that trusting third parties with your projects may be a risky decision. I see many people suggesting moving off of
by SwellJoe 11y ago
So, this is a reminder (and a very harsh one) that trusting third parties with your projects may be a risky decision. I see many people suggesting moving off of SourceForge to Github. While we moved most of our stuff to github years ago, and I like github and have no major complaints about them today, I'm having doubts about the wisdom of staying on any third party hosting site, no matter how nice they seem today.
Let's put this in context: SourceForge was once (this was many, many years ago) a deeply trustworthy entity. They were excellent stewards of Open Source projects. They consistently took guidance from the community, and wouldn't have chosen profits over users or projects (though, certainly, they've profited).
Markets change, leadership changes, acquisitions happen. One day, we may not recognize github as the entity we know today, just as we don't recognize the entity that SourceForge has become.
I'm not saying don't move to github. Obviously, nobody should be starting new projects on SourceForge and github is one of the better third party alternatives. But, it may be worth thinking about what happens when we as an Open Source community build up another SF.net like entity. A central repository for all the most popular Open Source software, controlled by one profit-driven corporation.
Maybe it was worth the tradeoff. Maybe SourceForge provided enough value over the years to where it's not worth belly-aching about having to rebuild our communities around new tools (maybe even another third party tool), and to educate users that SourceForge is now an untrustworthy provider that should be avoided. Maybe we have to just mourn the loss of a once great supporter of Open Source software and move on to another that will likely, someday, also turn its back on Open Source values in pursuit of profits.
I hate trash-talking SourceForge so harshly, as projects I've been involved in have been well-served by SF.net in the past (and even now, we're pushing out terabytes of downloads through their mirrors, even though we've moved our revision control to github long ago). But, the company as it exists today is nothing like what it once was. I must assume none of the original founders remain given how far this strays from the original vision of the thing, and certainly it's been through multiple acquisitions and leadership changes. Maybe I shouldn't feel so bad about it...maybe the SourceForge I knew has been dead for years, and I just didn't notice as it's taken a while to start to smell.
- drzaiusapelord 11y agoWhy can't someone make a hosting site with a no crapware rule? I understand monetization is a big issue, but I'd be willing to sit through a 10-15 second forced ad to get a nice FOSS product. This mentality of installing random "utilities" and search hijackers on PC's needs to end. I can't imagine these things outpaying video ads directed right at our demographic. In the age of cheap bandwidth and cheap servers, how is this not massively profitable?
- carussell 11y agoPeople, even hackers, get unreasonably attached to names. Your last paragraph is key. If the company operating SourceForge today were doing what they're doing today under any other banner, no one looking to evaluate the options available to them would come away with the conclusion that TAFKA SourceForge would be the thing to go with.