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Is it legal in some countries to leave your job for the competition? I thought that's commonly outlawed in most countries. Stealing planning documents is anoth

by erikb 11y ago

Is it legal in some countries to leave your job for the competition? I thought that's commonly outlawed in most countries. Stealing planning documents is another thing but I am quite surprised that it's okay to leave your company and work for the competition two days later.

mattmanser 11y ago
Outlawed? No, and never, ever has been. What a lot of companies attempt to do is put in anti-compete clauses in to the civil employment contract. They are often unenforceable or if they are they are heavily time limited unless a large financial incentive is provided to balance the loss of earnings.
- MrDosu 11y ago
  Exactly this, non competes are mostly only binding if there is adquate compensation involved. If your contract only says "Not allowed to work in the field for X month after leaving" and there is no compensation, it's toilet paper.
- erikb 11y ago
  Would you edit in which country you're referring, too?
  - mattmanser 11y ago
    I'm from the UK, but it's the same for most countries. Moving companies in the same field is not illegal, it's called a career.
mauricemir 11y ago
Which counties would this be Qatar? BTW Freedom to work for whoever you chose is on one the rights laid down in the Universal Declaration of Human rights. and I think its implied in the US constitution
- erikb 11y ago
  "in some countries" might include countries outside the US, though! ;-)
ExpiredLink 11y ago
> Is it legal in some countries to leave your job for the competition? It's called desertion and threatened with the death penalty.
- erikb 11y ago
  I get the joke but I think it's not a funny situation. If you're not self employed it's quite an interesting topic to know about don't you think?
solve 11y ago
I almost get a laugh whenever EU region people say that Americans are slaves to their jobs. Somehow they actually believe the BS that the EU labor laws are vastly superior for employees in every way. What you're saying is true in many places in the EU. It's very sad.
- to3m 11y ago
  Which places?
  - solve 11y ago
    Nearly all countries in EU will allow companies to aggressively pursue violators of no-hire and no-solicit clauses. Do you know of anywhere in the EU where the courts automatically reject those types of contract clauses?
    - MrDosu 11y ago
      Confirming this to be complete fabrication in Germany. Contract law is very simple in most of the EU. The most you can hope for here is non-disclosure.
      - solve 11y ago
        Places with the simplest contract law tend to be the worst = whatever is on the contract is what happens. I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say.
        erikb 11y ago
        In Germany the law overwrites the contracts and many things are already defined in the law. I think that's what he's referring to, but I'm not sure.
DasIch 11y ago
Of course that's OK. In Germany not only is it legal it is illegal to include clauses in an enmployment contract that forbid this (unless you get paid for the time in which you are not allowed to go to the competition).

by erikb 11y ago

mattmanser 11y ago

Outlawed? No, and never, ever has been. What a lot of companies attempt to do is put in anti-compete clauses in to the civil employment contract. They are often unenforceable or if they are they are heavily time limited unless a large financial incentive is provided to balance the loss of earnings.

MrDosu 11y ago
Exactly this, non competes are mostly only binding if there is adquate compensation involved. If your contract only says "Not allowed to work in the field for X month after leaving" and there is no compensation, it's toilet paper.
erikb 11y ago
Would you edit in which country you're referring, too?
- mattmanser 11y ago
  I'm from the UK, but it's the same for most countries. Moving companies in the same field is not illegal, it's called a career.

mauricemir 11y ago

Which counties would this be Qatar? BTW Freedom to work for whoever you chose is on one the rights laid down in the Universal Declaration of Human rights. and I think its implied in the US constitution

erikb 11y ago
"in some countries" might include countries outside the US, though! ;-)

ExpiredLink 11y ago

> Is it legal in some countries to leave your job for the competition? It's called desertion and threatened with the death penalty.

erikb 11y ago
I get the joke but I think it's not a funny situation. If you're not self employed it's quite an interesting topic to know about don't you think?

solve 11y ago

I almost get a laugh whenever EU region people say that Americans are slaves to their jobs. Somehow they actually believe the BS that the EU labor laws are vastly superior for employees in every way. What you're saying is true in many places in the EU. It's very sad.

to3m 11y ago
Which places?
- solve 11y ago
  Nearly all countries in EU will allow companies to aggressively pursue violators of no-hire and no-solicit clauses. Do you know of anywhere in the EU where the courts automatically reject those types of contract clauses?
  - MrDosu 11y ago
    Confirming this to be complete fabrication in Germany. Contract law is very simple in most of the EU. The most you can hope for here is non-disclosure.
    - solve 11y ago
      Places with the simplest contract law tend to be the worst = whatever is on the contract is what happens. I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say.
      - erikb 11y ago
        In Germany the law overwrites the contracts and many things are already defined in the law. I think that's what he's referring to, but I'm not sure.

DasIch 11y ago

Of course that's OK. In Germany not only is it legal it is illegal to include clauses in an enmployment contract that forbid this (unless you get paid for the time in which you are not allowed to go to the competition).