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Which city in Britain has a strong crime culture? London?

by brador 11y ago

dijit 11y ago
Coventry.. it was industrious once. Now it's very crime-addled. However almost all of it goes unreported. it's only after leaving a culture like that you realise it's so strange. Edit: Hm, I got downvoted. Lets see if I can break down a summary of my life for people who don't think Coventry is bad (news articles in google seem to say it's not bad anymore). but, stats: I've been mugged 17 times in 20 years, my home has been burgularised 4 times. 26 bikes have been stolen (locked and chained), I've been stabbed, I've been beaten in the streets by gangs of men. I've been threatened with peeling (by asian boys in school). Coventry is not safe, the city center is made safe by excessive policing, but "Hillfields" (drug and prostitute capital of the midlands at least) and "Wood End" (which isn't even POLICED anymore because it's so dangerous) make coventry an unsafe place to be if not just visiting. most people mind their own business, but if you look like you have money, those people are pirahna. Also, we hold the world record for fastest time to strip a car of it's interior if left unlocked. (or we did when I last checked). I'm not saying there isn't worse places in the world.. the government has done a _lot_ to reinvest in coventry. But it's a very dangerous place to live.
- DanBC 11y ago
  You got downvoted for making an extreme claim (crime riddled; extremely dangerous place to live) that just isn't supported by stats, and then claiming that the stats are wrong. Assuming for the moment that the police stats are wrong we'd still see increased insurance costs for people living in Coventry, and we don't. Support your claims with more than anecdote.
  - dijit 11y ago
    Insurance costs are taken from crime statistics and insurance claims. Nobody I know has insurance. the problem is that this data is completely off-radar. The Coventry people are incredibly insular and untrusting. The idea is that you are either alone, or with your community- if you're community rejects you because you don't like their kids putting rotting fish in your letter box (for example) then you're on your own. People don't get insurance because they think that by declaring their assets they invite people who work in the insurance firms to sell that information to burglars. (which does happen occasionally). Crime goes mostly unreported because the police are untrusted, even if they had extremely noble intentions the people in coventry are a black box in terms of information- nobody will "snitch" on anybody else. if someone was caught snitching then that person becomes one of the "rare" cases of a stabbing or extreme coersion to leave the city. (punctured tires, cutting brake lines, random people coming to kick your door in late at night and leaving without coming in, etc) Your statistics lie about coventry, which is my point entirely.. the problem can't be fixed because there is no statistics on the problem to begin with. Although those in the West Midlands tend to avoid Coventry except for a shopping visit. As much as it's anecdotal, I can think of a LOT of people I know who had to leave Coventry, I should show you a cross section of the people I went to school with- Crime is a way of life there, it's not even seen as "Crime" it's just.. it just is, you know it's a crime and the police become your enemies, but they were never your friends to begin with. Anyway, I've been on the wrong side of the law, but as soon as my environment changed I was -able- to become an upstanding person. Your stats are lying, and I'm not trying to upset or offend you but there are places like Coventry all over the world.. unquantifiable by normal statistics.
    - DanBC 11y ago
      You keep saying that Coventry is riddled with crime, but you have nothing but feels to support you. It's not persuasive, especially in the face of reported police stats; of the British Crime Survey; of insirance prices; of house prices; of murder rates; there's nothing anywhere that supports your outlandish claim.
      - dijit 11y ago
        Which is my point entirely. "Unreported crime" is "no crime" to you, the government or anyone else. I -KNOW- this is reality, it's plainer to me than that water is wet and the fact that evidence doesn't exist for it is _precisely_ what I'm saying. (and actually house prices are cheaper in Coventry than anywhere else in the west midlands) http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detail.html?country=england&locationIdentifier=REGION%5E368&searchLocation=Coventry&propertyType=4&year=1&referrer=listChangeCriteria http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detail.html?country=... [Coventry, terraced, sold in the last year] vs http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detail.html?country=england&locationIdentifier=REGION%5E728&searchLocation=Kenilworth&propertyType=4&year=1&referrer=listChangeCriteria http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detail.html?country=... [Kenilworth, terraced, sold in last year] lets add some "OPed" articles because stats aren't really worthy in this situation: http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/all-about/wood-end http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/all-about/wood-end The "isolation" of crime: (it's really not isolated, but more.. concentrated): http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/third-coventry-crime-takes-place-6993735 http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/third-co...
        DanBC 11y ago
        The british crime survey does not use police reported crime! Those numbers are entirely separate from police reported crime. Your last link makes you case much weaker, not stronger. Do you understand that? There's probably not much point carrying on if you don't.
      - machinshin_ 11y ago
        what you're saying is "I want stats that prove that that statistics of Coventry is going unreported". what kinda non-anecdotal proof would you like? the OP's point is that the the stats are a lie, cause most crime is unreported.
- brador 11y ago
  What's peeling? Google gives nothing...
  - dijit 11y ago
    A type of flaying. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaying http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaying

Which city in Britain has a strong crime culture? London?

by brador 11y ago

Which city in Britain has a strong crime culture? London?

dijit 11y ago

Coventry.. it was industrious once. Now it's very crime-addled. However almost all of it goes unreported. it's only after leaving a culture like that you realise it's so strange. Edit: Hm, I got downvoted. Lets see if I can break down a summary of my life for people who don't think Coventry is bad (news articles in google seem to say it's not bad anymore). but, stats: I've been mugged 17 times in 20 years, my home has been burgularised 4 times. 26 bikes have been stolen (locked and chained), I've been stabbed, I've been beaten in the streets by gangs of men. I've been threatened with peeling (by asian boys in school). Coventry is not safe, the city center is made safe by excessive policing, but "Hillfields" (drug and prostitute capital of the midlands at least) and "Wood End" (which isn't even POLICED anymore because it's so dangerous) make coventry an unsafe place to be if not just visiting. most people mind their own business, but if you look like you have money, those people are pirahna. Also, we hold the world record for fastest time to strip a car of it's interior if left unlocked. (or we did when I last checked). I'm not saying there isn't worse places in the world.. the government has done a _lot_ to reinvest in coventry. But it's a very dangerous place to live.

DanBC 11y ago
You got downvoted for making an extreme claim (crime riddled; extremely dangerous place to live) that just isn't supported by stats, and then claiming that the stats are wrong. Assuming for the moment that the police stats are wrong we'd still see increased insurance costs for people living in Coventry, and we don't. Support your claims with more than anecdote.
- dijit 11y ago
  Insurance costs are taken from crime statistics and insurance claims. Nobody I know has insurance. the problem is that this data is completely off-radar. The Coventry people are incredibly insular and untrusting. The idea is that you are either alone, or with your community- if you're community rejects you because you don't like their kids putting rotting fish in your letter box (for example) then you're on your own. People don't get insurance because they think that by declaring their assets they invite people who work in the insurance firms to sell that information to burglars. (which does happen occasionally). Crime goes mostly unreported because the police are untrusted, even if they had extremely noble intentions the people in coventry are a black box in terms of information- nobody will "snitch" on anybody else. if someone was caught snitching then that person becomes one of the "rare" cases of a stabbing or extreme coersion to leave the city. (punctured tires, cutting brake lines, random people coming to kick your door in late at night and leaving without coming in, etc) Your statistics lie about coventry, which is my point entirely.. the problem can't be fixed because there is no statistics on the problem to begin with. Although those in the West Midlands tend to avoid Coventry except for a shopping visit. As much as it's anecdotal, I can think of a LOT of people I know who had to leave Coventry, I should show you a cross section of the people I went to school with- Crime is a way of life there, it's not even seen as "Crime" it's just.. it just is, you know it's a crime and the police become your enemies, but they were never your friends to begin with. Anyway, I've been on the wrong side of the law, but as soon as my environment changed I was -able- to become an upstanding person. Your stats are lying, and I'm not trying to upset or offend you but there are places like Coventry all over the world.. unquantifiable by normal statistics.
  - DanBC 11y ago
    You keep saying that Coventry is riddled with crime, but you have nothing but feels to support you. It's not persuasive, especially in the face of reported police stats; of the British Crime Survey; of insirance prices; of house prices; of murder rates; there's nothing anywhere that supports your outlandish claim.
    - dijit 11y ago
      Which is my point entirely. "Unreported crime" is "no crime" to you, the government or anyone else. I -KNOW- this is reality, it's plainer to me than that water is wet and the fact that evidence doesn't exist for it is _precisely_ what I'm saying. (and actually house prices are cheaper in Coventry than anywhere else in the west midlands) http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detail.html?country=england&locationIdentifier=REGION%5E368&searchLocation=Coventry&propertyType=4&year=1&referrer=listChangeCriteria http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detail.html?country=... [Coventry, terraced, sold in the last year] vs http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detail.html?country=england&locationIdentifier=REGION%5E728&searchLocation=Kenilworth&propertyType=4&year=1&referrer=listChangeCriteria http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detail.html?country=... [Kenilworth, terraced, sold in last year] lets add some "OPed" articles because stats aren't really worthy in this situation: http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/all-about/wood-end http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/all-about/wood-end The "isolation" of crime: (it's really not isolated, but more.. concentrated): http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/third-coventry-crime-takes-place-6993735 http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/third-co...
      - DanBC 11y ago
        The british crime survey does not use police reported crime! Those numbers are entirely separate from police reported crime. Your last link makes you case much weaker, not stronger. Do you understand that? There's probably not much point carrying on if you don't.
    - machinshin_ 11y ago
      what you're saying is "I want stats that prove that that statistics of Coventry is going unreported". what kinda non-anecdotal proof would you like? the OP's point is that the the stats are a lie, cause most crime is unreported.
brador 11y ago
What's peeling? Google gives nothing...
- dijit 11y ago
  A type of flaying. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaying http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaying