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Source that proves he's hosting such things? Are you arguing against anonymity on the internet altogether? IMO Mr. Brennan is a hero for taking on the risks as

by zxcvcxz 11y ago

Source that proves he's hosting such things? Are you arguing against anonymity on the internet altogether? IMO Mr. Brennan is a hero for taking on the risks associated with hosting an anonymous image board and not backing down in the face of people who time and time again continue to slander his name. I don't want to live in a world where people live in fear of hosting an anonymous image board.

zodiakzz 11y ago
http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/01/8chan-domain-seized-over-allegations-of-child-abuse-content/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/01/8chan-domain-seized-... -------NSFW!----- https://8ch.net/ephe/ https://8ch.net/ephe/ "Teenagers ONLY! That means only 13+ But of course, 16 is the perfect age." https://8ch.net/nnmodels/ https://8ch.net/nnmodels/ "Young Models and Jailbait" https://8ch.net/phile/ https://8ch.net/phile/ "Show some <18 love" https://8ch.net/hebe/ https://8ch.net/hebe/ https://8ch.net/cuteboys/ https://8ch.net/cuteboys/
- zxcvcxz 11y ago
  This is not "proof" of him knowingly hosting child pornography. Sites get accused of such things all the time and I personally believe there is a group of people who intentionally orchestrated this fiasco. I visited the 8chan links you posted and didn't see any child pornography. It seems to me like you're trying a little too hard to paint this guy as some kind of pedofile. I don't completely agree with the types of things being posted, but I didn't see anything illegal. Of course a site that allows anyone to create their own board is going to have some politically incorrect boards. Reddit has had similar problems and you can still find sub reddits for the same things there. I suppose you're against free speech completely then? For someone who claims to be anti-child porn you sure did find those links fast, almost like you had them bookmarked..
  - qts_wwa 11y ago
    /cuteboys/ in particular is a board for effeminate gay men, that does not allow underaged posters or pictures thereof. Just goes to show how zodiakzz hasn't bothered to actually visit or understand the site he's crusading against.
    - zxcvcxz 11y ago
      Seeing as zodiakzz seems to be completely against free speech I wouldn't be surprised if he/she equates homosexuality with pedophilia. It seems to always be the people who crusade against pedofiles who end up being the child abusers. (see how easy it is to make unfounded assumptions about people?)
      - krapp 11y ago
        I see nothing in zodiakzz's comments which suggests that they are 'completely against free speech,' and your personal attacks are completely out of line and against the culture and terms of Hacker News. It's all well and good to dispute their sources, but at least they brought sources to dispute.
        zxcvcxz 11y ago
        zodiakzz is the one who engaged in personal attacks against the founder of 8chan to begin with. I'm simply giving him a taste of his own medicine. My post highlights how easy it is to make unfounded assumptions about people on the internet. Thanks for helping me prove my point. Edit: oh and btw, zodiakzz did post a link to forum specifically for gay men as "proof" of 8chan hosting pedophilic content, so it's not much of a stretch to believe he lumps homosexuals in the same group as pedophiles.
        krapp 11y ago
        Proving you're willing to stoop to their level doesn't prove them wrong, though. All it does it get a potentially interesting thread flagged into oblivion.
- swamiwammiloo 11y ago
  [ephe] clothed teens are legal under US law- but only if they do not fail the DOST test. [nmmodels] young models and jailbait are legal under US law. blame the parents putting their kids into young beauty pageants, not pedophiles. write your representative to make them illegal. cuteboys is a board for transgirls, gay guys, and crossdressers, along with others that don't fit the binary. you're not some homophobe / transphobe, are you? these people are consenting adults. if you seriously think child porn could exist in the open on the Internet in 2015, you are delusional. the FBI regularly arrests people, and takes down people for hosting CP. your argument literally only is supported by feels, not reals. everything that you have linked is legal under US law.
corvus_sapiens 11y ago
What did the parent comment originally say? For the record, Brennan has admitted that 8chan has boards for sexualizing minors (which is legal) though he doesn't support them. " Unfortunately, yes. I don’t support the content on the boards you mentioned, but it is simply the cost of free speech and being the only active site to not impose more 'laws' than those that were passed in Washington, D.C. ...if you want /doll/ shut down you should instead focus on the studios who are producing this content. Some of them are even legally based in the USA. That’s the real story here, not some perverts posting them online after the fact. " https://medium.com/@infinitechan/what-i-actually-said-to-patrick-howell-oneill-bb4d8604b0bb https://medium.com/@infinitechan/what-i-actually-said-to-pat... Edit: Better source

by zxcvcxz 11y ago

zodiakzz 11y ago

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/01/8chan-domain-seized-over-allegations-of-child-abuse-content/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/01/8chan-domain-seized-... -------NSFW!----- https://8ch.net/ephe/ https://8ch.net/ephe/ "Teenagers ONLY! That means only 13+ But of course, 16 is the perfect age." https://8ch.net/nnmodels/ https://8ch.net/nnmodels/ "Young Models and Jailbait" https://8ch.net/phile/ https://8ch.net/phile/ "Show some <18 love" https://8ch.net/hebe/ https://8ch.net/hebe/ https://8ch.net/cuteboys/ https://8ch.net/cuteboys/

zxcvcxz 11y ago
This is not "proof" of him knowingly hosting child pornography. Sites get accused of such things all the time and I personally believe there is a group of people who intentionally orchestrated this fiasco. I visited the 8chan links you posted and didn't see any child pornography. It seems to me like you're trying a little too hard to paint this guy as some kind of pedofile. I don't completely agree with the types of things being posted, but I didn't see anything illegal. Of course a site that allows anyone to create their own board is going to have some politically incorrect boards. Reddit has had similar problems and you can still find sub reddits for the same things there. I suppose you're against free speech completely then? For someone who claims to be anti-child porn you sure did find those links fast, almost like you had them bookmarked..
- qts_wwa 11y ago
  /cuteboys/ in particular is a board for effeminate gay men, that does not allow underaged posters or pictures thereof. Just goes to show how zodiakzz hasn't bothered to actually visit or understand the site he's crusading against.
  - zxcvcxz 11y ago
    Seeing as zodiakzz seems to be completely against free speech I wouldn't be surprised if he/she equates homosexuality with pedophilia. It seems to always be the people who crusade against pedofiles who end up being the child abusers. (see how easy it is to make unfounded assumptions about people?)
    - krapp 11y ago
      I see nothing in zodiakzz's comments which suggests that they are 'completely against free speech,' and your personal attacks are completely out of line and against the culture and terms of Hacker News. It's all well and good to dispute their sources, but at least they brought sources to dispute.
      - zxcvcxz 11y ago
        zodiakzz is the one who engaged in personal attacks against the founder of 8chan to begin with. I'm simply giving him a taste of his own medicine. My post highlights how easy it is to make unfounded assumptions about people on the internet. Thanks for helping me prove my point. Edit: oh and btw, zodiakzz did post a link to forum specifically for gay men as "proof" of 8chan hosting pedophilic content, so it's not much of a stretch to believe he lumps homosexuals in the same group as pedophiles.
        krapp 11y ago
        Proving you're willing to stoop to their level doesn't prove them wrong, though. All it does it get a potentially interesting thread flagged into oblivion.
swamiwammiloo 11y ago
[ephe] clothed teens are legal under US law- but only if they do not fail the DOST test. [nmmodels] young models and jailbait are legal under US law. blame the parents putting their kids into young beauty pageants, not pedophiles. write your representative to make them illegal. cuteboys is a board for transgirls, gay guys, and crossdressers, along with others that don't fit the binary. you're not some homophobe / transphobe, are you? these people are consenting adults. if you seriously think child porn could exist in the open on the Internet in 2015, you are delusional. the FBI regularly arrests people, and takes down people for hosting CP. your argument literally only is supported by feels, not reals. everything that you have linked is legal under US law.

corvus_sapiens 11y ago

What did the parent comment originally say? For the record, Brennan has admitted that 8chan has boards for sexualizing minors (which is legal) though he doesn't support them. " Unfortunately, yes. I don’t support the content on the boards you mentioned, but it is simply the cost of free speech and being the only active site to not impose more 'laws' than those that were passed in Washington, D.C. ...if you want /doll/ shut down you should instead focus on the studios who are producing this content. Some of them are even legally based in the USA. That’s the real story here, not some perverts posting them online after the fact. " https://medium.com/@infinitechan/what-i-actually-said-to-patrick-howell-oneill-bb4d8604b0bb https://medium.com/@infinitechan/what-i-actually-said-to-pat... Edit: Better source