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No pardon necessary. I wasn't trying to make a point about what the intersection of algorithm and art should look like (and certainly not saying that my doodle

No pardon necessary. I wasn't trying to make a point about what the intersection of algorithm and art should look like (and certainly not saying that my doodle is the right way!), just saying that I'm happy that these worlds are becoming aware of each other. I think this will be fruitful. We can agree to disagree on legibility and what is 'artful' for algorithms much like art fans of the last century wrestled with abstract art. I enjoy the art world precisely because it is so rule-less and undefined, unlike my day-to-day coding.

jacobolus 11y ago
Sorry to be negative, but as someone who considers myself both an art person and a code person, I don’t find the example very compelling as either art or code or as a union of the two. Your friends’ lack of enthusiasm for it doesn’t necessarily prove anything about their (in)ability to appreciate other fields. For contrast, I consider many of the links here to be examples of great art (and great exposition) related to code/formal models: http://conceptviz.github.io/ http://conceptviz.github.io/
- rquantz 11y ago
  This is silly, there's plenty of art that takes a subject and renders it in an incongruous medium. It is usually not productive to criticize art for not achieving something it is not trying to achieve. I'm not taking a side on the question of whether the code calligraphy is good or not, but your argument that it's bad because it doesn't follow the particular model that you think is the correct intersection between art and data does not hold water.
  - jacobolus 11y ago
    I didn’t say it’s “bad” in any objective sense. I said I don’t personally find it very compelling, and it’s in my opinion very thin evidence on which to ground his sweeping statement: “[I] found that art-people didn't appreciate algorithms and code-people didn't appreciate art.”

jacobolus 11y ago

Sorry to be negative, but as someone who considers myself both an art person and a code person, I don’t find the example very compelling as either art or code or as a union of the two. Your friends’ lack of enthusiasm for it doesn’t necessarily prove anything about their (in)ability to appreciate other fields. For contrast, I consider many of the links here to be examples of great art (and great exposition) related to code/formal models: http://conceptviz.github.io/ http://conceptviz.github.io/

rquantz 11y ago
This is silly, there's plenty of art that takes a subject and renders it in an incongruous medium. It is usually not productive to criticize art for not achieving something it is not trying to achieve. I'm not taking a side on the question of whether the code calligraphy is good or not, but your argument that it's bad because it doesn't follow the particular model that you think is the correct intersection between art and data does not hold water.
- jacobolus 11y ago
  I didn’t say it’s “bad” in any objective sense. I said I don’t personally find it very compelling, and it’s in my opinion very thin evidence on which to ground his sweeping statement: “[I] found that art-people didn't appreciate algorithms and code-people didn't appreciate art.”