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No, but running from police, or driving from them, could get you arrested. Running in the opposite direction as police shouldn't be a cause for suspicion or ar

No, but running from police, or driving from them, could get you arrested. Running in the opposite direction as police shouldn't be a cause for suspicion or arrest.

res0nat0r 11y ago
> Running in the opposite direction as police shouldn't be a cause for suspicion or arrest. Most people would think just the opposite. If you run then you are guilty of something, or trying to hide something. If you are actually innocent, then that can be sorted out when the cops question you, but either way running away isn't some kind of get out of jail free card to avoid the police.
- stephengillie 11y ago
  > If you are actually innocent, then that can be sorted out when the cops question you... You can see how well that worked out for Freddie Gray.
  - res0nat0r 11y ago
    An exception to the rule doesn't really prove much in this case.
    - stephengillie 11y ago
      It's cute that you think his situation was an exception.
      - res0nat0r 11y ago
        I like to refer to this as the Reddit Echo Chamber Effect (and slowing it is unfortunately becoming the HN Echo Chamber Effect). If you only get your news from Reddit, HN and Huffpo it would be easy to believe that the majority of actions of police are corrupt/evil/terrible, but this is not the case.
netfire 11y ago
It may not be cause for arrest in of itself, but its definitely cause for suspicion and perhaps detainment (especially if the police have reason to believe that a crime has just been committed). Can you imagine what would happen if police arrive at the scene of a robbery and see someone running away, but can't detain them for questioning because they haven't talked to witnesses that saw the person performing the robbery? Instead of running away, the more correct approach would be to refuse to be detained for questioning unless the police have reasonable suspicion that you have done the crime and to retain legal counsel, if needed. You can calmly stand up for your rights without acting rashly and invoking suspicion.
- logfromblammo 11y ago
  There is no detectable difference between running away from a cop and running because you want to get wherever you are going more quickly. Because of this, judges have ruled many times that apparent avoidance of police contact alone is not sufficient to create the reasonable suspicion necessary for searches or seizures. The police, naturally, appeal to themselves and overturn those rulings whenever they feel it to be expedient. They may also proceed from there to summary administrative punishments, such as arresting the suspect on bogus charges, holding him for hours, then releasing him without prosecution. You might beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride. Consider, for a moment, that if the person running is innocent, he will not necessarily be aware that a crime has taken place, or even that there are police behind him. If he stays put, he may be subjected to uncompensated inconveniences from the justice system, regardless of his innocence. So the correct play is to immediately start recording, walk away until a cop tells you to stop, then positively establish that you refuse consent for any searches or seizures, and will not respond to questions without legal counsel present. The one and only thing you ask from that point is whether you can leave. There is no longer any net benefit to hanging around anywhere that a cop can see you. Whatever protection you may have against people committing crimes against you is offset by the possibility of receiving a summons with a monetary fine attached, or possibly even having all your valuables forfeited.
  - netfire 11y ago
    I don't see any problem with walking away from police, even running isn't so bad (especially if you didn't start running the moment you saw the police), provided that you stop walking or running if instructed to do so. The important thing is not to cause suspicion by acting like you are fleeing the scene of a crime. Running away by itself is not cause for suspicion, but running away from police when a crime has been committed and failing to stop when instructed to, would be in my opinion.

No, but running from police, or driving from them, could get you arrested. Running in the opposite direction as police shouldn't be a cause for suspicion or arrest.

res0nat0r 11y ago

> Running in the opposite direction as police shouldn't be a cause for suspicion or arrest. Most people would think just the opposite. If you run then you are guilty of something, or trying to hide something. If you are actually innocent, then that can be sorted out when the cops question you, but either way running away isn't some kind of get out of jail free card to avoid the police.

stephengillie 11y ago
> If you are actually innocent, then that can be sorted out when the cops question you... You can see how well that worked out for Freddie Gray.
- res0nat0r 11y ago
  An exception to the rule doesn't really prove much in this case.
  - stephengillie 11y ago
    It's cute that you think his situation was an exception.
    - res0nat0r 11y ago
      I like to refer to this as the Reddit Echo Chamber Effect (and slowing it is unfortunately becoming the HN Echo Chamber Effect). If you only get your news from Reddit, HN and Huffpo it would be easy to believe that the majority of actions of police are corrupt/evil/terrible, but this is not the case.

netfire 11y ago

It may not be cause for arrest in of itself, but its definitely cause for suspicion and perhaps detainment (especially if the police have reason to believe that a crime has just been committed). Can you imagine what would happen if police arrive at the scene of a robbery and see someone running away, but can't detain them for questioning because they haven't talked to witnesses that saw the person performing the robbery? Instead of running away, the more correct approach would be to refuse to be detained for questioning unless the police have reasonable suspicion that you have done the crime and to retain legal counsel, if needed. You can calmly stand up for your rights without acting rashly and invoking suspicion.

logfromblammo 11y ago
There is no detectable difference between running away from a cop and running because you want to get wherever you are going more quickly. Because of this, judges have ruled many times that apparent avoidance of police contact alone is not sufficient to create the reasonable suspicion necessary for searches or seizures. The police, naturally, appeal to themselves and overturn those rulings whenever they feel it to be expedient. They may also proceed from there to summary administrative punishments, such as arresting the suspect on bogus charges, holding him for hours, then releasing him without prosecution. You might beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride. Consider, for a moment, that if the person running is innocent, he will not necessarily be aware that a crime has taken place, or even that there are police behind him. If he stays put, he may be subjected to uncompensated inconveniences from the justice system, regardless of his innocence. So the correct play is to immediately start recording, walk away until a cop tells you to stop, then positively establish that you refuse consent for any searches or seizures, and will not respond to questions without legal counsel present. The one and only thing you ask from that point is whether you can leave. There is no longer any net benefit to hanging around anywhere that a cop can see you. Whatever protection you may have against people committing crimes against you is offset by the possibility of receiving a summons with a monetary fine attached, or possibly even having all your valuables forfeited.
- netfire 11y ago
  I don't see any problem with walking away from police, even running isn't so bad (especially if you didn't start running the moment you saw the police), provided that you stop walking or running if instructed to do so. The important thing is not to cause suspicion by acting like you are fleeing the scene of a crime. Running away by itself is not cause for suspicion, but running away from police when a crime has been committed and failing to stop when instructed to, would be in my opinion.