> Essentially there's no laptop where everything just works. This is absurd. Like I said though, my Clevo 740su did work perfectly out of the box. I don't have

> Essentially there's no laptop where everything just works. This is absurd. Like I said though, my Clevo 740su did work perfectly out of the box. I don't have to fuck with the trackpad, my sound worked, my pic works, webcam works, battery life is alright considering the SOC (I get about 4 hours idle and 2 hours load). The only missing thing is keyboard resume, which is barely a blip on my radar. There are combinations of parts that work perfectly out of the box in Linux. It is just nobody is putting them all together on average, and Dell seems to rather brute force unsupported hardware rather than field parts with comprehensive support. They exist, you just have to use them instead of their belligerent competitors. Macbooks are always strange, because there are dozens of hackers who will spend night and day reverse engineering each new Macbook to work on the Linux kernel. You don't get that kind of hobbyist support for pretty much anything else.