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> anti-immigration sentiment rising in the UK No, it's always been there.

branchless 11y ago
This is correct IMHO. Nu Labour made a big mistake in banning "hate speech". Being authoritarian scum Nu Labour thought you can't persuade working people not to be racist (as Nu Labour hate the working class). So they banned it instead. Now we have more economic problems and people are starting to defy the ban to complain about immigrants with the rise of UKIP. In the UK we will see a big spike in racism because instead of persuading people racism is wrong they simply suppressed it. Big mistake.
- innguest 11y ago
  The Left (the people concerned with racism, who don't understand racism is counter-productive and no one would choose it in the free-market) is not concerned with persuading anyone of anything. Remember the USSR? Did they persuade 100 million people? No, they killed them. Killing is an extreme form of suppression. The UK isn't there yet, but it's getting there: "For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" -- David Cameron He's saying "I've had enough tolerating law-abiding citizens that disagree with Leftism". You know what comes after that.
  - peteretep 11y ago
    > The UK isn't there yet, but it's getting there Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously?
    - innguest 11y ago
      So one way you can interpret that is to think "oh yeah he's saying 'it's getting there!' with the wag of the finger as if to say it's moving towards a more communist approach". Which seems fair to me, given Cameron's quote. The other way to interpret that is to think "oh wow, this internet person thinks that the UK is about to turn into something exactly like the USSR". Which one do you think applies? Don't answer me, I don't care, answer yourself and ask what does that say about you.
webtards 11y ago
Careful there! It's easy to paint a broad stroke, when the reality is more nuanced. When employers adopt a race to the bottom on salary and skill level, then yes, the plumber replaced by an eastern European counterpart, or a programmer replaced by someone who will "do the needful" may feel some resentment. But it is easy and cheap to paint a nation with the same viewpoint.
- peteretep 11y ago
  I've lived in enough countries to be happy to paint the whole world with that view point.

This is correct IMHO. Nu Labour made a big mistake in banning "hate speech". Being authoritarian scum Nu Labour thought you can't persuade working people not to be racist (as Nu Labour hate the working class). So they banned it instead. Now we have more economic problems and people are starting to defy the ban to complain about immigrants with the rise of UKIP. In the UK we will see a big spike in racism because instead of persuading people racism is wrong they simply suppressed it. Big mistake.

innguest 11y ago
The Left (the people concerned with racism, who don't understand racism is counter-productive and no one would choose it in the free-market) is not concerned with persuading anyone of anything. Remember the USSR? Did they persuade 100 million people? No, they killed them. Killing is an extreme form of suppression. The UK isn't there yet, but it's getting there: "For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" -- David Cameron He's saying "I've had enough tolerating law-abiding citizens that disagree with Leftism". You know what comes after that.
- peteretep 11y ago
  > The UK isn't there yet, but it's getting there Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously?
  - innguest 11y ago
    So one way you can interpret that is to think "oh yeah he's saying 'it's getting there!' with the wag of the finger as if to say it's moving towards a more communist approach". Which seems fair to me, given Cameron's quote. The other way to interpret that is to think "oh wow, this internet person thinks that the UK is about to turn into something exactly like the USSR". Which one do you think applies? Don't answer me, I don't care, answer yourself and ask what does that say about you.

webtards 11y ago

Careful there! It's easy to paint a broad stroke, when the reality is more nuanced. When employers adopt a race to the bottom on salary and skill level, then yes, the plumber replaced by an eastern European counterpart, or a programmer replaced by someone who will "do the needful" may feel some resentment. But it is easy and cheap to paint a nation with the same viewpoint.

peteretep 11y ago
I've lived in enough countries to be happy to paint the whole world with that view point.