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"because migrants are prepared to work, and native brits are not" Is it suddently OK to say such things? Denigrating country native population because they don
by guard-of-terra 11y ago
"because migrants are prepared to work, and native brits are not"
Is it suddently OK to say such things? Denigrating country native population because they don't agree with you?
Native brits survived for thousand years so perhaps they can do so now without you worrying.
(Not a brit, but in my country this ugly tool gets applied all the time)
- mkaziz 11y agoThose evil invading Anglo-Saxons immigrated to the lower half of Britannia and now rule the entire island. Why, they even have the gall to name part of it Angle-land!
- guard-of-terra 11y agoWhich clearly shows us the dangers of uncontrolled immigration.
- 0xAA 11y ago> Native brits survived for thousand years so perhaps they can do so now without you worrying. LOL Ever heard of colonies?
- guard-of-terra 11y agoColonial empire was a comparatively brief period of history, and there are hints that maintaining colonies was a net loss economically. Of course, from the perspective of power (and bringing nice perks for the elite) it was a different story.
- jkyle 11y agoI'd like to see the numbers showing Spain lost money by acquiring all the gold and silver it could squeeze out of the Americas.
- guard-of-terra 11y agoSpain actually ruined their economy by doing so.
- jkyle 11y agoEuropean Wars (such as the Netherlands war), collapsing internal industries resulting in a shift from exporter to importer, internal revolts like the Moricos Revolt, and lack of investment in industry, and Phillip's penchant for foolish and grandiose national project bankrupted Spain. Throw in a couple of plagues and failed crops as salt in the wounds and that's a wrap. The massive influx of bouillon and spoils from the Americas were the only thing that kept up the facade for any length of time. Spain's problems were entirely domestic. At least according to the history books I've read.
- guard-of-terra 11y ago"collapsing internal industries resulting in a shift from exporter to importer" This is caused by influx of gold from colonies as far as my understanding goes.
- peteretep 11y agoThere's nothing says lazy like colonising a quarter of the world's surface
- tomjen3 11y agoSure. Still haven't seen the evidence that they made money of of them.
- happyscrappy 11y ago>Is it suddently OK to say such things? Only in reference to white people.
- jmorphy88 11y agoIt's another version "doing the jobs [white nationality] won't do" canard, which you hear all the time in the "debate" about immigration from Mexico to the USA (legal and otherwise). It really means "doing the jobs [white nationality] won't do at well-below-market wages". It's a way of lending Narrative to the purely economic nature of mass immigration -- we're expected to believe that it's about bringing in "innovators", or "hard-working people just looking for a chance", or "people who want to make a better life for themselves". In reality mass immigration is entirely about business and elites undercutting wages and replacing the local population with a cheaper one. It's the same for farm owners hiring illegals as it is for Mark Zuckerberg lobbying for more H1Bs.
- guard-of-terra 11y agoI'm not sure it's same for H1Bs. There's a finite demand for farm work. But when SV succeeds in creating a new Google using H1B labor, it benefits whole country and also creates more jobs, even for native population. And it does that from time to time.
- jmorphy88 11y agoThat sounds like another version of the same narrative: "creating the Googles that [white nationality] won't create".
- guard-of-terra 11y agoCreate more googles than just white people currently residing in the US of A will create.
- jmorphy88 11y agoThe Narrative is that H1Bs have some kind of magical entrepreneurial powers that do not exist in the native population, thus we must increase their numbers dramatically so that we do not fall into a dark age of innovation. This is nonsense. Silicon Valley was innovating long before the existence of the H1B visa.
- madaxe_again 11y agoBullshit. Native Brits have red hair and blue eyes, if there to be any such thing as a native - and the Picts came from what is now the North Sea - should we "send them back"? The habitants of this island are Normans, Romans, Vikings, Huguenots, Calvinists and many others who invaded or fled to Britain. No such thing as a native.