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We have several similar headlines on HN lately. Go/Rust/Erlang/Elixir/Node/Nim/Julia for Python programmers Is there a trend away from Python2/3 or Ruby to la

by castell 11y ago

We have several similar headlines on HN lately. Go/Rust/Erlang/Elixir/Node/Nim/Julia for Python programmers Is there a trend away from Python2/3 or Ruby to language X?

babo 11y ago
IMHO they are just catchy titles to grab readers. As an example in the last sentence the author states: "I don't think there is a direct relationship between Python and Rust." That's a fair conclusion as TL; DR;
pjmlp 11y ago
For me Python's only purpose in my workflow was scripting, I never considered it for application development. Nowadays that scripting urge is covered by Powershell/F# on Windows and OCaml/F# on GNU/Linux.
bryanjos 11y ago
I've switched from Python to Elixir. Python was my favorite language. I fell in love with functional programming after trying out Scala and spent a fair amount of time after trying out different languages to see which one was a good fit for me. Elixir is that language for me. When I start talking about it I seem to go on and on so I'll stop there. I'm also a fan of rust and plan to use it for more system level programming as well. I think its going to open the door to systems programming for more people and I'm excited to see what comes out of it. Also, as someone who has done a fair bit of C/C++, I'm happy to see an alternative.
sophacles 11y ago
I think it's that python has become a pretty big lingua franca of the programming world - so it makes sense that a lot of tutorials relate other languages to the one tons of people know already.
tormeh 11y ago
I think it's more that many language designers and/or fans don't really understand why Python is so popular, and therefore think the Python ecosystem is an easy ecosystem to draw developers from.
- Dewie3 11y ago
  I haven't had the impression that language geeks[1] complain a lot about Python. They certainly complain more about other dynamic languages. [1] I don't know if I've seen enough designers' opinions about it to say anything.
pekk 11y ago
It isn't that there is a trend away from Python, it's that languages that are not yet very popular want to lure away some of Python's audience to augment their own.
StavrosK 11y ago
I think it's just a generic "new language guide for the exact target audience", which, realistically, anyone who knows a current language will be able to follow.
BuckRogers 11y ago
Yes. I think Ruby is losing popularity or already has long ago, my guess is a lot of those guys moved to Go or JS on Node. Python isn't really losing popularity, it's probably gaining as many users as it's losing right now. It's just that a lot of people including myself are completely turned off by Python3, so if we're going to break our old code and take on a ton of testing- may as well do rewrites in a new, potentially better language/platform. For me, Go has problems (as Python does) but thus far I find it the most appealing of all choices. I tend to be attracted to simpler things (worse is better).

by castell 11y ago

We have several similar headlines on HN lately. Go/Rust/Erlang/Elixir/Node/Nim/Julia for Python programmers Is there a trend away from Python2/3 or Ruby to language X?

babo 11y ago

IMHO they are just catchy titles to grab readers. As an example in the last sentence the author states: "I don't think there is a direct relationship between Python and Rust." That's a fair conclusion as TL; DR;

pjmlp 11y ago

For me Python's only purpose in my workflow was scripting, I never considered it for application development. Nowadays that scripting urge is covered by Powershell/F# on Windows and OCaml/F# on GNU/Linux.

bryanjos 11y ago

I've switched from Python to Elixir. Python was my favorite language. I fell in love with functional programming after trying out Scala and spent a fair amount of time after trying out different languages to see which one was a good fit for me. Elixir is that language for me. When I start talking about it I seem to go on and on so I'll stop there. I'm also a fan of rust and plan to use it for more system level programming as well. I think its going to open the door to systems programming for more people and I'm excited to see what comes out of it. Also, as someone who has done a fair bit of C/C++, I'm happy to see an alternative.

sophacles 11y ago

I think it's that python has become a pretty big lingua franca of the programming world - so it makes sense that a lot of tutorials relate other languages to the one tons of people know already.

tormeh 11y ago

I think it's more that many language designers and/or fans don't really understand why Python is so popular, and therefore think the Python ecosystem is an easy ecosystem to draw developers from.

Dewie3 11y ago
I haven't had the impression that language geeks[1] complain a lot about Python. They certainly complain more about other dynamic languages. [1] I don't know if I've seen enough designers' opinions about it to say anything.

pekk 11y ago

It isn't that there is a trend away from Python, it's that languages that are not yet very popular want to lure away some of Python's audience to augment their own.

StavrosK 11y ago

I think it's just a generic "new language guide for the exact target audience", which, realistically, anyone who knows a current language will be able to follow.

BuckRogers 11y ago

Yes. I think Ruby is losing popularity or already has long ago, my guess is a lot of those guys moved to Go or JS on Node. Python isn't really losing popularity, it's probably gaining as many users as it's losing right now. It's just that a lot of people including myself are completely turned off by Python3, so if we're going to break our old code and take on a ton of testing- may as well do rewrites in a new, potentially better language/platform. For me, Go has problems (as Python does) but thus far I find it the most appealing of all choices. I tend to be attracted to simpler things (worse is better).