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/s/hundreds/thousands working under the kalafa , the euphemism for slavery in middle east. Slavery exists everywhere(yes even in Europe and US) but it's general

by aikah 11y ago

/s/hundreds/thousands working under the kalafa , the euphemism for slavery in middle east. Slavery exists everywhere(yes even in Europe and US) but it's generally not something organized at the state level, it is usually illegal.

SEJeff 11y ago
Where does slavery exist in the US? You know we had a war about that an all... It didn't end up super well for the slavers.
- TillE 11y ago
  The term generally used is "human trafficking". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_the_United...
- krisdol 11y ago
  (Private) Prisons. Prisoners have no labor rights in the US and earn cents per hour making textiles, office furniture, military wire, id-tags, vests, etc. Private prison corporations contract out this labor to clients like the DoD, Wal-Mart, Costco, etc. It creates an incentive for the prison industry to lobby for more prisons, tougher anti-crime laws, tougher border crossing penalties, longer sentences. The profits incentivize a total lack of addressing recidivism. 1 out of 4 prisoners in the world occupy a US prison (we account for what? 4-5% of the world's population?). Violent crimes have been trending down over 20 years, but prisoner population as a percentage is at an all time high due to tougher drug convictions. Also, then there's huge factory farms, which are known to use migrants of questionable citizenship as laborers, and report them to the police when they complain.
  - SEJeff 11y ago
    I certainly wouldn't call illegal immigrants slaves. They generally speaking work under stolen identities and pay taxes for non-cash payment just like the rest of us. For those that do work strictly for cash, yes what you said does happen, but they are breaking the law to begin with by being illegal immigrants. The current US administration has made it a lot easier for said illegals to get less scetchy jobs via the DREAM act and the associated legal things. The points you bring up about prisoners is interesting. I've always found the moral idea of a for-profit prison as reprehensible.
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  > Where does slavery exist in the US? Every few years since, IIRC, at least the mid- to late-1980s there seems to be a new exposé about various forms of slavery in the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (particularly Saipan), though that may have been at least somewhat mitigated in the last few years by Congress' federalization of CNMI labor and immigration policy in 2008.
- jtbigwoo 11y ago
  I know a guy who rescued several people from slavery in Florida. Here's an article about it from the New Yorker from 2003: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/04/21/nobodies http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/04/21/nobodies Since then, they've helped the government rescue over 1,000 people from slavery in the southeast U.S.
- ryanlol 11y ago
  The term generally used is "prison". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_State...
- smutticus 11y ago
  Good general overview of prison labor: http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/04/04/prison-labor-and-taxpayer-dollars/ http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/04/04/prison-labor... More detailed account of prison labor in Nevada regarding casinos and construction. http://vltp.net/casinos-prison-labor-strange-bedfellows/ http://vltp.net/casinos-prison-labor-strange-bedfellows/ The slave market: http://www.unicor.gov/ http://www.unicor.gov/ You can even get slave labor to operate your call center: http://www.unicor.gov/services/contact_helpdesk/ http://www.unicor.gov/services/contact_helpdesk/
- __z 11y ago
  Here's just one article I found real quick that cites many examples. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/03/world/americas/03iht-slave.1.8567142.html http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/03/world/americas/03iht-slave... The term mostly used nowadays to describe the selling of people is "human-trafficking" even though human trafficking is a little bit broader category. Its common for organized crime to deal in human trafficking.

by aikah 11y ago

SEJeff 11y ago

Where does slavery exist in the US? You know we had a war about that an all... It didn't end up super well for the slavers.

TillE 11y ago
The term generally used is "human trafficking". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_the_United...
krisdol 11y ago
(Private) Prisons. Prisoners have no labor rights in the US and earn cents per hour making textiles, office furniture, military wire, id-tags, vests, etc. Private prison corporations contract out this labor to clients like the DoD, Wal-Mart, Costco, etc. It creates an incentive for the prison industry to lobby for more prisons, tougher anti-crime laws, tougher border crossing penalties, longer sentences. The profits incentivize a total lack of addressing recidivism. 1 out of 4 prisoners in the world occupy a US prison (we account for what? 4-5% of the world's population?). Violent crimes have been trending down over 20 years, but prisoner population as a percentage is at an all time high due to tougher drug convictions. Also, then there's huge factory farms, which are known to use migrants of questionable citizenship as laborers, and report them to the police when they complain.
- SEJeff 11y ago
  I certainly wouldn't call illegal immigrants slaves. They generally speaking work under stolen identities and pay taxes for non-cash payment just like the rest of us. For those that do work strictly for cash, yes what you said does happen, but they are breaking the law to begin with by being illegal immigrants. The current US administration has made it a lot easier for said illegals to get less scetchy jobs via the DREAM act and the associated legal things. The points you bring up about prisoners is interesting. I've always found the moral idea of a for-profit prison as reprehensible.
dragonwriter 11y ago
> Where does slavery exist in the US? Every few years since, IIRC, at least the mid- to late-1980s there seems to be a new exposé about various forms of slavery in the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (particularly Saipan), though that may have been at least somewhat mitigated in the last few years by Congress' federalization of CNMI labor and immigration policy in 2008.
jtbigwoo 11y ago
I know a guy who rescued several people from slavery in Florida. Here's an article about it from the New Yorker from 2003: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/04/21/nobodies http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/04/21/nobodies Since then, they've helped the government rescue over 1,000 people from slavery in the southeast U.S.
ryanlol 11y ago
The term generally used is "prison". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_State...
smutticus 11y ago
Good general overview of prison labor: http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/04/04/prison-labor-and-taxpayer-dollars/ http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/04/04/prison-labor... More detailed account of prison labor in Nevada regarding casinos and construction. http://vltp.net/casinos-prison-labor-strange-bedfellows/ http://vltp.net/casinos-prison-labor-strange-bedfellows/ The slave market: http://www.unicor.gov/ http://www.unicor.gov/ You can even get slave labor to operate your call center: http://www.unicor.gov/services/contact_helpdesk/ http://www.unicor.gov/services/contact_helpdesk/
__z 11y ago
Here's just one article I found real quick that cites many examples. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/03/world/americas/03iht-slave.1.8567142.html http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/03/world/americas/03iht-slave... The term mostly used nowadays to describe the selling of people is "human-trafficking" even though human trafficking is a little bit broader category. Its common for organized crime to deal in human trafficking.