I think what I was trying to say it's not really that developers are divorced from science, but that the day-to-day tasks that we do end up being far from whate

I think what I was trying to say it's not really that developers are divorced from science, but that the day-to-day tasks that we do end up being far from whatever paper or thesis taught us how to do. The example that comes to mind is REST. There is a lot more in that PhD thesis than what is actually used and implemented outside of the lab. That's what I meant for craft. In the end I don't see anyone implementing "all the science" regarding REST, only those parts that are needed and even then... as best as some engineers understood it (myself included of course). That's also the reason why we end up calling "RESTFul" a lot of stuff that Thomas Fielding clearly states is not. At least it's good knowing that I'm not alone and other people feel the same. So in the end I know that I can do my best... but not more. It's a funny beast this development thingie... Edit: So basically just reinforcing your point...