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I'm not sure where you're getting your information here. One very pervasive area I don't see going 64-bit any time soon is cable settop boxes.

justincormack 11y ago
They dont tend to run the jvm. But they will quite likely end up running 64 bit as speeds increase and they get upgraded. Both mips and arm are pushing 64 bit quite a bit now, these type of applications dont really need 64 bit but it wont cost anything different.
- yellowapple 11y ago
  Actually, quite a few set-top boxes do run Java and thus some form of a JVM (though perhaps not HotSpot). Of particular note, Java (specifically, BD-J) is a mandatory part of the Blu-Ray standard in order to implement things like interactive menus, disc updates (for post-release subtitle updates, for example), etc., so literally every device with Blu-Ray playback capability runs a JVM (probably HotSpot). I'd reckon most of these run 32-bit processors, and probably will for the next several years. This isn't the only case where Java is part of the standards for various set-top boxen. Java's also commonplace as middleware on cable/satellite TV boxes, and (IIRC) some "smart TVs" use Java extensively.
- anewhnaccount 11y ago
  Actually, Java was originally designed for interactive television (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/overview/javahistory-index-198355.html http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/overview/javah...).
- zzalpha 11y ago
  They dont tend to run the jvm. ADB (to name one) would beg to differ...
- copsarebastards 11y ago
  > They dont tend to run the jvm. That's just false. As of 2010 when I was working writing cable settop box software, cable settop boxes were legally obligated to ship with and run the JVM as part of OCAP antitrust regulation (the idea being that firmware written in Java could run on any settop box). I'm no longer in that industry, but unless something has changed in the last 5 years (which it may have) every new cable settop box shipped in the United States shipped with a JVM and booted into firmware that ran on the JVM. As of that time, all of the platforms I worked on were 32-bit. Before, I said, "I'm not sure where you're getting your information." Now I'm very sure you don't know what you're talking about.

justincormack 11y ago

They dont tend to run the jvm. But they will quite likely end up running 64 bit as speeds increase and they get upgraded. Both mips and arm are pushing 64 bit quite a bit now, these type of applications dont really need 64 bit but it wont cost anything different.

yellowapple 11y ago
Actually, quite a few set-top boxes do run Java and thus some form of a JVM (though perhaps not HotSpot). Of particular note, Java (specifically, BD-J) is a mandatory part of the Blu-Ray standard in order to implement things like interactive menus, disc updates (for post-release subtitle updates, for example), etc., so literally every device with Blu-Ray playback capability runs a JVM (probably HotSpot). I'd reckon most of these run 32-bit processors, and probably will for the next several years. This isn't the only case where Java is part of the standards for various set-top boxen. Java's also commonplace as middleware on cable/satellite TV boxes, and (IIRC) some "smart TVs" use Java extensively.
anewhnaccount 11y ago
Actually, Java was originally designed for interactive television (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/overview/javahistory-index-198355.html http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/overview/javah...).
zzalpha 11y ago
They dont tend to run the jvm. ADB (to name one) would beg to differ...
copsarebastards 11y ago
> They dont tend to run the jvm. That's just false. As of 2010 when I was working writing cable settop box software, cable settop boxes were legally obligated to ship with and run the JVM as part of OCAP antitrust regulation (the idea being that firmware written in Java could run on any settop box). I'm no longer in that industry, but unless something has changed in the last 5 years (which it may have) every new cable settop box shipped in the United States shipped with a JVM and booted into firmware that ran on the JVM. As of that time, all of the platforms I worked on were 32-bit. Before, I said, "I'm not sure where you're getting your information." Now I'm very sure you don't know what you're talking about.