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I'm running Fedora 20 as my main home desktop/dev platform (upgraded from Fedora 19, it worked just fine this time!). Fedora 22 means 20 will be EOL soon and I

by reidrac 11y ago

I'm running Fedora 20 as my main home desktop/dev platform (upgraded from Fedora 19, it worked just fine this time!). Fedora 22 means 20 will be EOL soon and I've been thinking what to do next. I've realized that I don't use many things from the default install, and Debian Jessie provides reasonable versions for the important software I use every day (XFCE, Mesa libraries, Python, pip, gcc, vim; things like that), and for the other software I can install it from 3rd party repos (Chrome and Skype mainly) or compile it (I track SFML git repo, for example; and pip is amazing), so I won't be upgrading or reinstalling Fedora any more (since Fedora 12, I've been mostly a happy user after moving from Ubuntu -Debian before that-). To be honest, I don't know what's going on. May be is the OSS I use that is now mature enough to not care any more if I'm running the latest version or not, or if it's me that is mature enough to just get things done (I was going to say "boring", but I'll stick with mature). Fedora has been very useful for me when it was bleeding edge and I needed the new an shiny stuff, and because Fedora was a great community effort and it was really open to contributors (and I contributed!). Since Gnome 3 and Unity, I'm not interested in the new stuff, and tired to see how any non-mainstream opinion makes you a hater (like anyone was interested in my blog; tip: nobody); but I digress. Nice to see Fedora going strong, but please give me stability and something I can use every day without changing things because there's a vision and a plan and I'll be happy! EDIT: I said when it was bleeding edge; and it still is. I guess other distros are catching up and that's not that relevant.

merb 11y ago
just upgrade to Fedora 21 as soon as 20 is EOL or use ArchLinux, thats what I did after I had enough from too many things that didn't worked out of the box in Fedora (like propriatary WLAN drivers, my current wlan stick is still really old stable, but it isn't inside the Fedora Kernel, however its already inside the arch linux kernel). Also I would still be happy if ANY linux distribution could fix monitor plug & play, thats already really screwed. I mean things gotten better, but as soon as you deal with a retina display and plug in two 1920x1080 monitors in and out things getting screwed up really really fast. Also 3 monitors didn't worked out really well on login managars in the past years, however thats fixed now when you have the same resolution. That makes me really sad.
- thwarted 11y ago
  I've written a script that looks at the output of xrandr and reconfigures the screen layout, based on which outputs are plugged in and what the resolutions are. This is then bound to a key via the window manager so I can seamlessly move between laptop only, laptop+1 external, laptop+2 externals, or 2 externals only with just a keypress after coming out of sleep. This has been pretty solid on MacBookPro10,2, running the XFCE spin of Fedora 21. Some people have questioned if I'm running Linux when they see this work. The background on the login screen doesn't always render correctly, but I look at that as often as I reboot (which is like once a month), so that doesn't impact me much (just like boot time, ahem). My main concern is that as things become less shell-scriptable (like requiring complex dbus interactions), doing this will be less accessible to work around design or implementation quirks to achieve the desktop experience one wants. This is the price we pay for progress, I suppose.
ciupicri 11y ago
XFCE is still alive and kicking.
keithpeter 11y ago
Have a look at CentOS 7, the no-cost binary equivalentish(1) version of RHEL 7. Has long term support. Has familiar package management and administration. I don't follow this aspect closely but there was talk of 'software collections' allowing more recent versions of programming languages &c (1)CentOS is compiled from the RHEL source code distributed by RedHat but the checksums for each binary will be different as branding/images are changed to remove copyright material.

by reidrac 11y ago

merb 11y ago

just upgrade to Fedora 21 as soon as 20 is EOL or use ArchLinux, thats what I did after I had enough from too many things that didn't worked out of the box in Fedora (like propriatary WLAN drivers, my current wlan stick is still really old stable, but it isn't inside the Fedora Kernel, however its already inside the arch linux kernel). Also I would still be happy if ANY linux distribution could fix monitor plug & play, thats already really screwed. I mean things gotten better, but as soon as you deal with a retina display and plug in two 1920x1080 monitors in and out things getting screwed up really really fast. Also 3 monitors didn't worked out really well on login managars in the past years, however thats fixed now when you have the same resolution. That makes me really sad.

thwarted 11y ago
I've written a script that looks at the output of xrandr and reconfigures the screen layout, based on which outputs are plugged in and what the resolutions are. This is then bound to a key via the window manager so I can seamlessly move between laptop only, laptop+1 external, laptop+2 externals, or 2 externals only with just a keypress after coming out of sleep. This has been pretty solid on MacBookPro10,2, running the XFCE spin of Fedora 21. Some people have questioned if I'm running Linux when they see this work. The background on the login screen doesn't always render correctly, but I look at that as often as I reboot (which is like once a month), so that doesn't impact me much (just like boot time, ahem). My main concern is that as things become less shell-scriptable (like requiring complex dbus interactions), doing this will be less accessible to work around design or implementation quirks to achieve the desktop experience one wants. This is the price we pay for progress, I suppose.

ciupicri 11y ago

XFCE is still alive and kicking.

keithpeter 11y ago

Have a look at CentOS 7, the no-cost binary equivalentish(1) version of RHEL 7. Has long term support. Has familiar package management and administration. I don't follow this aspect closely but there was talk of 'software collections' allowing more recent versions of programming languages &c (1)CentOS is compiled from the RHEL source code distributed by RedHat but the checksums for each binary will be different as branding/images are changed to remove copyright material.