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Canonical is developing their own desktop environment (unity), their own windowing system (mir), their own package manager (snappy), etc. I think that is what t
by sciurus 11y ago
Canonical is developing their own desktop environment (unity), their own windowing system (mir), their own package manager (snappy), etc. I think that is what the author was referring to when it said Ubuntu is doing "their own thing." That makes them a bit hard to compare to other distributions that are largely adopting the same technology at different paces.
- amyjess 11y agoEh, I don't see how the desktop environment and package manager really matter. Lots of distributions differ on those things. The windowing system, maybe, but remember that Mir isn't even used by default yet. And Snappy isn't out yet at all.
- kbenson 11y agoAnd their own init system. But I agree with you, that's not all that different than some other big players such as Red Hat (systemd, pulseaudio, gnome, etc), even if the details of how they go about it are different. Investing time/manpower into a technology (whether you created it or not) and then pushing adoption through inclusion in the distro is a tried and true technique at this point.
- vezzy-fnord 11y agoThey dropped Upstart for systemd in 15.04, after the decision was already made over a year earlier. They're also going to replace it in Ubuntu Touch as well. It's worth noting that Upstart came at least four years prior to systemd, so it wasn't NIH.
- kbenson 11y agoI'm aware, but whether they are currently still using it doesn't really change whether or not they started the project, which is all I thought mattered for the discussion. I wasn't casting any negative judgement against Canonical/Ubuntu for that, just the opposite actually (even if my limited dealings with upstart were not pleasant), that's a big way distro innovation happens.