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Disclosure: I work on the website of a blue-chip dead-tree newspaper. But I agree. As someone else said in another comment, the basic requirements of a news sit

by tragic 11y ago

Disclosure: I work on the website of a blue-chip dead-tree newspaper. But I agree. As someone else said in another comment, the basic requirements of a news site is, let's be honest, Web 0.5 stuff. Look, some text about stuff that happened! A picture of stuff happening! These are, shall we say, solved problems. If there's anything where you wouldn't expect significant value-add from the native or pseudo-native experience, it would be news. Certainly as a consumer I have no news apps installed - I go to the website.

duncanawoods 11y ago
>> If there's anything where you wouldn't expect significant >> value-add from the native or pseudo-native experience, it would >> be news I strongly disagree. I see "the news" is a perfect counter example because technology has changed what news is. Its not daily static content anymore, its now real-time, multi-media, interactive and interconnected. The types of media on a news page include: recorded video, live feeds, audio, pictures and embedded digital content from other services like twitter created by both journalists and amateur eye-witnesses. These are not just value-less decoration like cute animations on landing pages but real content from the event being reported. When news is data like election results, tax changes etc. interactive data visualiations are essential for digesting it. Interactivity lets us understand the impact of the news to us personally instead of single homogeneous national agenda. We expect all this and for it to be real-time and provide ways for us to be notified about changes, to share it and discuss it with friends and strangers.
- pjc50 11y ago
  .. but all of that is already being presented quite well in web pages?
  - duncanawoods 11y ago
    ...with today's web and IMHO its a great success. I'm arguing against the parent that claims Web 0.5 (vanilla hyperlinked documents) is enough for the news. This is only sufficient to duplicate a newspaper and present prose\pictures of what happened yesterday. I claim that technology has dramatically changed the fabric of news itself which now requires the modern Web with its document/app blurring to include dynamic behaviour, interactivity and multi-media.

by tragic 11y ago

duncanawoods 11y ago

>> If there's anything where you wouldn't expect significant >> value-add from the native or pseudo-native experience, it would >> be news I strongly disagree. I see "the news" is a perfect counter example because technology has changed what news is. Its not daily static content anymore, its now real-time, multi-media, interactive and interconnected. The types of media on a news page include: recorded video, live feeds, audio, pictures and embedded digital content from other services like twitter created by both journalists and amateur eye-witnesses. These are not just value-less decoration like cute animations on landing pages but real content from the event being reported. When news is data like election results, tax changes etc. interactive data visualiations are essential for digesting it. Interactivity lets us understand the impact of the news to us personally instead of single homogeneous national agenda. We expect all this and for it to be real-time and provide ways for us to be notified about changes, to share it and discuss it with friends and strangers.

pjc50 11y ago
.. but all of that is already being presented quite well in web pages?
- duncanawoods 11y ago
  ...with today's web and IMHO its a great success. I'm arguing against the parent that claims Web 0.5 (vanilla hyperlinked documents) is enough for the news. This is only sufficient to duplicate a newspaper and present prose\pictures of what happened yesterday. I claim that technology has dramatically changed the fabric of news itself which now requires the modern Web with its document/app blurring to include dynamic behaviour, interactivity and multi-media.