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So it would be possible to produce a mass-produced replacement part targeted at specific models, at least at first, using for example the Leaf drive train and a

So it would be possible to produce a mass-produced replacement part targeted at specific models, at least at first, using for example the Leaf drive train and a conversion kit? I assume electric cars have standard axles++.

valarauca1 11y ago
There is no standardization between manufacturers in the automotive industry. When there is, its often because two models were developed as an collaboration between companies, or a licensing deal between manufacturers. Between model lines you'll see some part repeat, and some drive train components repeated. But for cross manufacturers production it'd likely be very impossible, this is done intentionally by manufacturers. :.:.: While some companies do manufacturer aftermarket drive train components. They have licensing deals to get early dyes while production is under way. Often partnering to lower the cost of the dye production ($10Mil +). Often these specialize on high performance model lines, and the performance company is very often a sub-division of the parent company. If you buy a high performance transmission, drive shaft, etc. Your just buying an alternative part designed by the same parent company, sold via a shell performance company, which is part of the parent company, but exists largely as advertisement for the high end market.
- kagamine 11y ago
  By standard axles I meant that there are really only 2 types on production cars in the last century, fully floating and not. Many of these parts may not be "standardized" but they are interchangeable. Want Land Cruiser axles on a Land Rover or Jeep? Not a problem. Anyway, I wanted to discuss the feasibility of it now and in the future, not explain-away any possibility of it because it's too hard to do. The automotive industry is full of small and large manufacturers willing to fill a niche. I have a car with a replacement carb that requires conversion kit, and a lead-free head on the engine. There are also disk-brake kits, engine & gearbox conversions, suspension conversions... the list goes on.
  - nl 11y ago
    Want Land Cruiser axles on a Land Rover or Jeep? Not a problem. Err. Well, it's not a problem in the sense that yes, it is possible. But it take choosing the exactly correct parts, custom machining and a fair bit of bodging stuff together (eg[1]). And that's just axles, which aren't exactly the most difficult part of the drive train. Having said that.. yes, it's quite possible to convert conventional cars to electric ones. See[2] for a place to start. [1] http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/jeep-non-hardcore/622698-toyota-axles-jeep-4.html http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/jeep-non-hardcore/622698-toyo... [2] http://www.evmotors.com.au/services/quickguide.html http://www.evmotors.com.au/services/quickguide.html
    - kagamine 11y ago
      It's far more common among off-roaders than you know.
  - valarauca1 11y ago
    Okay fine then. Producing a hardware prototype will run ~15mil since steel dye work is expensive. You'll also need a team, and office space. Good luck.
bluedino 11y ago
>> So it would be possible to produce a mass-produced replacement part targeted at specific models It wouldn't be a big deal to design an electric motor that would be a bolt-on replacement to a gas engine - especially for the most popular vehicles like a Honda Civic or Toyota Camry. The problem is where do you put a big enough battery?

valarauca1 11y ago

There is no standardization between manufacturers in the automotive industry. When there is, its often because two models were developed as an collaboration between companies, or a licensing deal between manufacturers. Between model lines you'll see some part repeat, and some drive train components repeated. But for cross manufacturers production it'd likely be very impossible, this is done intentionally by manufacturers. :.:.: While some companies do manufacturer aftermarket drive train components. They have licensing deals to get early dyes while production is under way. Often partnering to lower the cost of the dye production ($10Mil +). Often these specialize on high performance model lines, and the performance company is very often a sub-division of the parent company. If you buy a high performance transmission, drive shaft, etc. Your just buying an alternative part designed by the same parent company, sold via a shell performance company, which is part of the parent company, but exists largely as advertisement for the high end market.

kagamine 11y ago
By standard axles I meant that there are really only 2 types on production cars in the last century, fully floating and not. Many of these parts may not be "standardized" but they are interchangeable. Want Land Cruiser axles on a Land Rover or Jeep? Not a problem. Anyway, I wanted to discuss the feasibility of it now and in the future, not explain-away any possibility of it because it's too hard to do. The automotive industry is full of small and large manufacturers willing to fill a niche. I have a car with a replacement carb that requires conversion kit, and a lead-free head on the engine. There are also disk-brake kits, engine & gearbox conversions, suspension conversions... the list goes on.
- nl 11y ago
  Want Land Cruiser axles on a Land Rover or Jeep? Not a problem. Err. Well, it's not a problem in the sense that yes, it is possible. But it take choosing the exactly correct parts, custom machining and a fair bit of bodging stuff together (eg[1]). And that's just axles, which aren't exactly the most difficult part of the drive train. Having said that.. yes, it's quite possible to convert conventional cars to electric ones. See[2] for a place to start. [1] http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/jeep-non-hardcore/622698-toyota-axles-jeep-4.html http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/jeep-non-hardcore/622698-toyo... [2] http://www.evmotors.com.au/services/quickguide.html http://www.evmotors.com.au/services/quickguide.html
  - kagamine 11y ago
    It's far more common among off-roaders than you know.
- valarauca1 11y ago
  Okay fine then. Producing a hardware prototype will run ~15mil since steel dye work is expensive. You'll also need a team, and office space. Good luck.

bluedino 11y ago

>> So it would be possible to produce a mass-produced replacement part targeted at specific models It wouldn't be a big deal to design an electric motor that would be a bolt-on replacement to a gas engine - especially for the most popular vehicles like a Honda Civic or Toyota Camry. The problem is where do you put a big enough battery?